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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:46 PM   #346
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:48 PM   #347
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:49 PM   #348
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In other words, they're situation is WHOLLY unlike Kansas City's.

So remind me again - why did you even bring it up?
Because LT is the biggest need on that team by far and Luke Joeckel is by far the best option for them.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:51 PM   #349
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Because LT is the biggest need on that team by far and Luke Joeckel is by far the best option for them.
Can you clarify your original statement please?

Did I just imagine that you said we should trade down like St. Louis?

I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:14 PM   #350
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:16 PM   #351
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:56 PM   #352
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If these retards actually did their homework, they'd realize that Andy Reid puts a huge emphasis on DL. 7 of his first round draft picks in Philly were pass rushers.

It all but seems like we will be going to the 4-3, so it's almost a guarantee that if Reid saw a QB that he could get at 32 (or around 32), then Reid would most likely draft Damontre Moore or Jarvis Jones, especially since he liked Branden Albert coming out of school.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:08 PM   #353
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If I'm Andy Reid, I'd rather have Luke Joeckel and Ryan Nassib than Geno Smith and any player in Rd 2.
Geno Smith and Xavier Rhodes.

And this one who sucks the penis thinks Joeckel and Nassib would be a better option?

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:13 PM   #354
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ESPN's Mel Kiper acknowledged on SportsCenter Thursday that Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o is unlikely to be a top-five draft pick.

Kiper was recommending the Chiefs take Te'o first overall during the season, but he's snapped back to reality a bit. "(Inside linebackers) typically don't go in the top-five overall," Kiper conceded. "1993, Marvin Jones went fourth overall to the Jets. That very rarely happens. You see 8-11 for the middle linebackers last 10-12 years, have come off the board. If he gets in -- Te'o does -- into that 10-15 range, it could allow a team like the Baltimore Ravens, looking for the heir apparent to Ray Lewis, to jump up and get a guy like Manti Te'o." Kiper is now recommending the Chiefs take Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel at No. 1.
Kiper is a backtracking pussy.

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:08 PM   #355
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If these retards actually did their homework, they'd realize that Andy Reid puts a huge emphasis on DL. 7 of his first round draft picks in Philly were pass rushers.

It all but seems like we will be going to the 4-3, so it's almost a guarantee that if Reid saw a QB that he could get at 32 (or around 32), then Reid would most likely draft Damontre Moore or Jarvis Jones, especially since he liked Branden Albert coming out of school.
Who was Reid's first pick in Philly? At #2 overall?

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:18 PM   #356
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When presented with the opportunity to pick the best QB prospect available KC fans hope to trade down for some extra picks and eat from the QB leftovers.

But, mid round picks are what you build a franchise around!!!
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:40 PM   #357
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When presented with the opportunity to pick the best QB prospect available KC fans hope to trade down for some extra picks and eat from the QB leftovers.

But, mid round picks are what you build a franchise around!!!
David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:43 PM   #358
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When presented with the opportunity to pick the best QB prospect available KC fans hope to trade down for some extra picks and eat from the QB leftovers.

But, mid round picks are what you build a franchise around!!!
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Don't bring up Carr. He didn't bust because of lack of talent. He busted because the offensive line never gave him more than 2 seconds.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:02 PM   #360
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Don't bring up Carr. He didn't bust because of lack of talent. He busted because the offensive line never gave him more than 2 seconds.
I think he busted because of a lack of talent.

We've seen other QB's chosen early that found success on their second and third teams like Steve Young, Doug Williams and Jim Plunkett. Not to mention "lessor" talents like Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Steve DeBerg, etc. and so on.

The bottom line is that talent evaluators and Casserly ****ed up.
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