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Old 01-11-2013, 08:21 AM  
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Likely to be the finalized staff...

From what I gathered, the staff will all be announced at once.

OC -Doug Pederson
QB coach - Matt Nagy
RB coach - Eric Bienemy
WR coach - David Culley
TE coach - Tom Melvin
OL - Eugene Chung
DC - Bob Sutton
DL - Tom Brasher
LB - Gary Gibbs
DB - Emmitt Thomas/Otis Smith *assistant
ST- Dave Toub

Senior offensive assistant/Assistant HC - Brad Childress

Don't know the quality control guys yet.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 AM   #46
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 AM   #47
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So we went from hiring coaches from the Pats tree to the Eagles tree and throw in a 90-year old DC.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
He's 61

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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 AM   #48
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So we went from hiring coaches from the Pats tree to the Eagles tree and throw in a 90-year old DC.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
Sutton is 90?
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:07 AM   #49
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I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.
It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:08 AM   #50
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Toub is the best ST coordinator in the league. That's a huge get if true, and certainly offsets any question marks at a couple position spots that may be unfounded anyway.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #51
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:10 AM   #52
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It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.
Totally agree. Well said.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:10 AM   #53
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My bad he just looks 90

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Old 01-11-2013, 09:11 AM   #54
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Does sutton run a 34?
Jets run a 3-4.

It's assumed he'll run the same scheme.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:13 AM   #55
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Jets run a 3-4.

It's assumed he'll run the same scheme.
Herm Edwards said he can run either.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:21 AM   #56
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My bad he just looks 90

Could be worse, it could have been Don Sutton. Thats the association my mind made when I first read it. Talk about a WTF moment.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:22 AM   #57
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My bad he just looks 90

well, his crank is so big he has to hold it while he works...

not sure if that helps on defense
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:31 AM   #59
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