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Old 01-11-2013, 06:45 AM  
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New Russian nuclear submarine enters service

New Russian nuclear submarine enters service

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MOSCOW (AP) The Russian navy on Thursday hoisted its flag on a new nuclear powered submarine intended to form a key part of the country's future nuclear deterrent. It is part of an ambitious weapons modernization effort that comes as the military is preparing for a naval exercise off Syria's shores.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said the war games in the Mediterranean will be the biggest such exercise since Soviet times and involve ships from all four Russian fleets. The maneuvers have been seen as a demonstration of Russian naval power and a show of support for an old ally, whom Moscow has shielded from international sanctions.

Shoigu made the statement after commissioning the new Yury Dolgoruky nuclear submarine, which carries 16 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles. It is the first of a new series of Borei-class submarines that will replace older Soviet-built ships. Another submarine of the same type is currently undergoing sea trials and two others are now under construction.

President Vladimir Putin congratulated the Yuri Dolgoruky's crew during a conference call Thursday, hailing the ship as a "powerful weapon that will guarantee our security."

"Submarines of that class will become an important element of sea-based strategic forces, a guarantor of global balance and security of Russia and its allies," Putin said.

Commissioning of the new submarines is part of an ambitious arms modernization program that envisages spending over 20 trillion rubles ($657 billion) on new weapons through 2020.

Putin said Thursday that 4 trillion rubles ($132 billion) of that money will be spent on commissioning the new submarines and other navy ships. "Modernization of the navy is one of the most important priorities in our work to strengthen the armed forces," he said.

Putin said the navy will commission the total of eight Borei-class ICBM nuclear submarines and eight nuclear submarines of a different Yasen class intended to hunt for enemy ships.

The construction of the Yuri Dolgoruky, named after a medieval Russian prince who founded Moscow, began in 1995 but was slowed down by a post-Soviet economic meltdown and it wasn't until 2009 when it finally entered sea trials. The submarine's commissioning was delayed further by problems with the new Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile intended to arm it.

The Bulava experienced a string of failures during tests that dragged on for years, raising doubts about the future of the most expensive military project in Russia's post-Soviet history. Recent tests, however, have been successful, allowing the navy to finally commission the submarine.

Shoigu, who attended the commissioning of the new submarine at a shipyard in Severodvinsk, said that the Bulava is fully combat ready.

Facing questions about Bulava, Putin's chief of staff Sergei Ivanov also insisted that "the navy has no reason to doubt its reliability."

A hawkish Russian Cabinet member marked the ceremony with a tongue-in-cheek comment mimicking the Cold War-era diatribes of Soviet leaders. "You bourgeoisie tremble! You are screwed!" Dmitry Rogozin, deputy prime minister in charge of military industries, wrote on Twitter.

Rogozin, a nationalist politician in the past, has been known for his bellicose and sometimes crude statements.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:40 AM   #31
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:43 AM   #32
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so sorry to offend any of my tender, new age american brothers.

I fought 8 long years for the rights of Old Glory and I didn't spew anything but typed a few simple facts.

Again, I do apologies!
8 years of service earns my respect. turning around and being a a-hole flushes it right down the toilet. that's america, exactly what you fought for, am I right?
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:51 AM   #33
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Badass Akula class sub:



The 45 kt speedster Alfa Class sub:

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Old 01-11-2013, 08:02 AM   #34
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The 45 kt speedster Alfa Class sub:

They do have some sleek looking subs, makes me wonder how they are so noisy but I know little about the Navy.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:03 AM   #35
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I do appreciate the respect and I am not one to take respect lightly, let alone flush it down the toilet as though it doesn't matter!

What I fought for? I left the USMC as an E-6 after giving 8 years of my life because I realized ( through discernment ) what I believed was worth giving my life for and what my children were having to sacrifice for, doesn't exist in this country any longer.

I usually stay away from DC type topics because of my passion for this once Great Nation. This morning I slipped. Should had stayed away from commenting in this thread.

Again Sorry for offending you guys! Go Chiefs!
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:05 AM   #36
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They do have some sleek looking subs, makes me wonder how they are so noisy but I know little about the Navy.
They probably maxed out everything in the sub just like they did with everything else, fine sound details be damned.

The energy it takes to move a big boat at 45 kts is astounding. The reactor had to be glowing.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:06 AM   #37
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No worries...

It is kind of funny though that Russia is building up their Navy with more nuclear submarines. I think that time is long gone.. are they really going to start blowing off nukes at everyone? Bunch of crazy bastards.

Of course, I wish it was more about disarming the nukes, but then the nuclear material would probably just be sold to Iran anyway.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:09 AM   #38
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It is kind of funny though that Russia is building up their Navy with more nuclear submarines. I think that time is long gone.. are they really going to start blowing off nukes at everyone? Bunch of crazy bastards.
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When it comes to defense/deterance:

One nuclear submarine = Entire conventional force



I was surprised to see how much money they were putting into their subs.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:12 AM   #39
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I read this and my first thought sounded like something out of a Clancey book. Loved reading his submarine chase/battle/hunt scenes...
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:18 AM   #40
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Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!
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I fought 8 long years for the rights of Old Glory and I didn't spew anything but typed a few simple facts.

Again, I do apologies!

You're wrong. Not just my opinion, just plain, obvious fact.

WE spend over 40% of all dollars spent in the world on the military. Let me say that again: for every 60 cents spent by everybody else in teh world combined, we spend about 40 cents.



We spend more on the military now, in inflation adjusted dollars, than we did during the Cold War.




We also spend more than twice as much on the military as China, and about TEN times more than Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/spending.htm



I'll stop there and stop arguing political stuff in this thread as I don't want to be the guy who gets it bounced to DC, but I couldn't let that one pass. The consistent unbelievable ignorance about US military spending is just incredibly annoying.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:25 AM   #41
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You're wrong. Not just my opinion, just plain, obvious fact.

WE spend over 40% of all dollars spent in the world on the military. Let me say that again: for every 60 cents spent by everybody else in teh world combined, we spend about 40 cents.



We spend more on the military now, in inflation adjusted dollars, than we did during the Cold War.




We also spend more than twice as much on the military as China, and about TEN times more than Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/spending.htm



I'll stop there and stop arguing political stuff in this thread as I don't want to be the guy who gets it bounced to DC, but I couldn't let that one pass. The consistent unbelievable ignorance about US military spending is just incredibly annoying.
Ok..this is my last comment in this forum! With all dues respect sir, I never mentioned spending but since you did I will reply. One of the biggest problems with this Nation is thinking more spending means better. We have and continue to over spend leaving us weak and very vulnerable. I could give many many examples and facts but I will do everyone here the favor and not.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:29 AM   #42
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I do appreciate the respect and I am not one to take respect lightly, let alone flush it down the toilet as though it doesn't matter!

What I fought for? I left the USMC as an E-6 after giving 8 years of my life because I realized ( through discernment ) what I believed was worth giving my life for and what my children were having to sacrifice for, doesn't exist in this country any longer.

I usually stay away from DC type topics because of my passion for this once Great Nation. This morning I slipped. Should had stayed away from commenting in this thread.

Again Sorry for offending you guys! Go Chiefs!
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:31 AM   #43
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On a side note Russia has tripled their space budget also, where are they getting their money?
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:33 AM   #44
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Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!
Dumbass.

Yes we spend more on our military than the entire world combined. We are so weak...
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The "Oscar" class sub was designed for one thing: to destroy an Aircraft Carrier.




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