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Old 01-11-2013, 08:50 AM  
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1 gap 3-4; how do you think it will shake out?

I think the 1 gap 3-4 will be very interesting for the Chiefs given their natural physical talents. It really plays to the strengths of our front 7 once we get another ILB. We have a lot of speed and brute strength that, in my opinion, was wasted under the 2 gap 3-4.

Who do you see being our starters at each position on the front seven next year?
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #46
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Margus Hunt will likely skyrocket up draft boards; I think he'll show exceptionally well at the combine.

With the Strongside backer having more coverage responsibility, I would still be interested in trying out Hali as a 5-tech with Houston sliding over to the weak side. I don't know that he's big enough to pull it off, but I'd sure be interested in seeing him try. He's become an expert at shooting gaps (and getting held), so I think he could make a huge splash knifing through gaps into the backfield.

I really would hate to waste Houston's first step in a coverage role.
Hali played significant snaps at DT at Penn State.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #47
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What? Seriously?
In a 1-gap, why not?

Watt just destroyed the world in that role. Now Hali's not the class of Watt, but he could be very good.

Hali's developed an array of power moves and has very active hands. His speed is diminishing but his power is improving. Of the 2 players, Houston is going to be the better Weak side LBer over the next 5 years.

So you could either waste Houston's talents by having him drop into coverage a lot as the Sam, you could flip Houston and Hali (in which case Hali would be a complete disaster in coverage) or you could try something that could maximize both of their skill-sets.

I do think that at this point in Hali's career, the Chiefs would be better off with him as a 1-gap DE and Houston playing the Will than they would leaving Hali at the Will and forcing Houston into the coverage role as a Sam in a 1-gap.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:31 PM   #48
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Hali played significant snaps at DT at Penn State.
Doesn't have the size for a DT at this level, but those same 'phonebooth' skills that he'd have developed with his DT snaps would be put to very good use in a 1-gap system.

It won't help Hali's numbers, no question. But I do think it will help the team. It may take him a few games to adjust (ala Freeney), but I think he'd be very good there.
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Either way we're gonna have to get more pass rush from the dl. I think Poe is a good fit in the 1 gap, with his physicality and ability.

Is there any way Bailey could play DE full time in the 1 gap?
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:45 PM   #50
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Either way we're gonna have to get more pass rush from the dl. I think Poe is a good fit in the 1 gap, with his physicality and ability.

Is there any way Bailey could play DE full time in the 1 gap?
Bailey sucks in the 2 gap, but I think he would shine in the 1 gap with his speed and strength.
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Either way we're gonna have to get more pass rush from the dl. I think Poe is a good fit in the 1 gap, with his physicality and ability.

Is there any way Bailey could play DE full time in the 1 gap?
I don't think there is any way Bailey can play full time anywhere at this point.

He is just sooooo sloooooooow off the line. You could use him as a situational interior lineman in your nickle packages, but that's about it.

He's as bad as anyone I've ever seen at getting off the ball. That's what keeps Poe from being great as well, but he's still a hell of a lot better at it than Bailey is.
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Bailey sucks in the 2 gap, but I think he would shine in the 1 gap with his speed and strength.
Hell...make him a backup Will. Then maybe he could get up to speed before contact.

He's so slow out of his stance that his speed never becomes a factor. Lineman engage him and wash him out before he can get moving.
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I, like DJ, just don't know if the guy has the speed.


These guys have been told for four years about being slow anchors.
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make Bailey a backup LBer?

is that what you just said? lol.
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Thinking mcaj22's new name should be lol. Dude gets alot of laughs around here.
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make Bailey a backup LBer?

is that what you just said? lol.
It was hyperbole.

My point being that his straight line speed isn't usable. He can't get off the ball and into space at all to put it to any practical football effect.

He's a freakish athlete with a glaring hole that prevents him from being a good football player.
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Thinking mcaj22's new name should be lol. Dude gets alot of laughs around here.
well when people say turn a DT into a back up Will LBer. What else is there to do but laugh
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It was hyperbole.

My point being that his straight line speed isn't usable. He can't get off the ball and into space at all to put it to any practical football effect.

He's a freakish athlete with a glaring hole that prevents him from being a good football player.
you can have all the strength and speed in the world, and still suck

see: Vernon Gholston, Aaron Maybin, etc.
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From what I can tell, though, Rex Ryan's system isn't a 1-gap. It is the hybrid 46 that still has the NT playing a zero technique.

Am I way off base, here?
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Margus Hunt, Shariff Floyd, or Sylvester Williams would be great picks if they were to somehow get to the 3 round.
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