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Old 01-11-2013, 09:50 AM  
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1 gap 3-4; how do you think it will shake out?

I think the 1 gap 3-4 will be very interesting for the Chiefs given their natural physical talents. It really plays to the strengths of our front 7 once we get another ILB. We have a lot of speed and brute strength that, in my opinion, was wasted under the 2 gap 3-4.

Who do you see being our starters at each position on the front seven next year?
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:12 PM   #61
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From what I can tell, though, Rex Ryan's system isn't a 1-gap. It is the hybrid 46 that still has the NT playing a zero technique.

Am I way off base, here?
Sutton wasn't the defensive coordinator under Ryan. He was the DC under Mangini.

Of course, he was also on Herm's staff.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:14 PM   #62
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Doesn't have the size for a DT at this level, but those same 'phonebooth' skills that he'd have developed with his DT snaps would be put to very good use in a 1-gap system.

It won't help Hali's numbers, no question. But I do think it will help the team. It may take him a few games to adjust (ala Freeney), but I think he'd be very good there.
Yeah, that was pretty much my point.

Hali is BEST at OLB, but he CAN play just about anywhere.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:15 PM   #63
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:16 PM   #64
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Be prepared for a year of shit defense.

These guys have been playing conservatively for four years in that shit 2 gap.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're one of the worst rushing defenses next year.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:17 PM   #65
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Sutton wasn't the defensive coordinator under Ryan. He was the DC under Mangini.

Of course, he was also on Herm's staff.
But then he would be running the Bill Parcells 2-gap defense.

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:17 PM   #66
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Bailey sucks in the 2 gap, but I think he would shine in the 1 gap with his speed and strength.
We're just gonna have to see what these guys can do in a different scheme, I unlike others are not ready to give up on some of the more talented guys on the roster, like bailey, based on the cluster**** that was going on last season with what seems like zero direction.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:18 PM   #67
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Be prepared for a year of shit defense.

These guys have been playing conservatively for four years in that shit 2 gap.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're one of the worst rushing defenses next year.
I would almost expect the opposite. They have been caged so long that if you let them run free they are going to terrorize shit
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:19 PM   #68
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I would almost expect the opposite. They have been caged so long that if you let them run free they are going to terrorize shit
Well, if you said it, it's definitely not happening.
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We're just gonna have to see what these guys can do in a different scheme, I unlike others are not ready to give up on some of the more talented guys on the roster, like bailey, based on the cluster**** that was going on last season with what seems like zero direction.
Bailey has no quickness, get off or pass rush moves.

He's probably gonna be cut.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:21 PM   #70
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I would almost expect the opposite. They have been caged so long that if you let them run free they are going to terrorize shit
I think Clay's right in regards to the run defense.

They're probably going to sell-out pretty hard to attack those gaps and they'll end up abandoning run-fits. Worse still, the LBs are now going to have a hell of a lot more responsibility in that regard and they're not likely going to catch onto it quickly.

It does seem like we'll be a little soft against the run.
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Anything better than that passive 2 gapping bullshit.
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I think Clay's right in regards to the run defense.

They're probably going to sell-out pretty hard to attack those gaps and they'll end up abandoning run-fits. Worse still, the LBs are now going to have a hell of a lot more responsibility in that regard and they're not likely going to catch onto it quickly.

It does seem like we'll be a little soft against the run.
We'll see. That last defense that playe da 1-gap here was pretty good at stuffing the run and getting to the QB. But having said that every defense will have their strengths and weaknesses.
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That last defense that playe da 1-gap here was pretty good at stuffing the run and getting to the QB.
This is a great point. What happened years ago will HAPPEN AGAIN. IT IS WRITTEN.
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We'll see. That last defense that playe da 1-gap here was pretty good at stuffing the run and getting to the QB. But having said that every defense will have their strengths and weaknesses.
He's not saying the 1-gap will fail.

He's saying it will struggle as these guys re-program themselves.
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I don't think there is any way Bailey can play full time anywhere at this point.

He is just sooooo sloooooooow off the line. You could use him as a situational interior lineman in your nickle packages, but that's about it.

He's as bad as anyone I've ever seen at getting off the ball. That's what keeps Poe from being great as well, but he's still a hell of a lot better at it than Bailey is.
tha **** are you talking about? Bailey played 34RDE in a 2 gap against LT's you idiot. He's small/short for the position if anything. Had poor hand technique, yadayada.

And Poe is plenty quick off the ball -- he was playing 2 gap techniques as well, so he did not look real good this year, but slow off the ball he was not.

Dorsey is slow, but quick off the ball. so what. he's got nothing for the NFL. But at least he was given 5 ****ing seasons to improve.

Poe needs time, he's lacking technique -- that was his MO coming up. Had nothing to do with his ability to get off the ball.


You know what, you're an asshole for even tossing these guys out after 1 & 2 seasons. You know damn well DL players require 3 or more seasons to develop.
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