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Old 01-12-2013, 07:53 PM  
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John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM

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John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM. More info to come. #Chiefs
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:45 AM   #331
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The Texans have like 5 guys.

JJ Watt
Antonio Smith
Brooks Reed
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Whitney Mercilus
We shouldn't model ourselves after the Texans, nor should we think there's a problem because we don't have a JJ Watt on our defensive line. I know you keep bringing him up. He's the exception, not the rule.

Think Poe has potentially to be a decent push guy with time. The Chiefs have 2 outstanding pass rushers in Houston and Hali. I guarantee you that DJ will be a solid pass rusher if he's let loose, and Berry can most certainly be an option too (especially in a 46). We have at least 3 to 4 guys who can probably today step in and be decent pass rushers in a better scheme. Again, DJ can't rush the passer if he's not allowed to blitz. Our DEs can't rush the passer if they're never allowed to stunt.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:46 AM   #332
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REAL ONES. Not ****ing Andy Studebaker or Allen Bailey or Jerrell Powe or whatever turd gets a free pass around here.
Powe could be a solid NT.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:46 AM   #333
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My bad about Mercilus and didn't realize Smith had that many sacks.

However, Smith is hardly a pass rusher and most of his sacks could be attributed to scheme.

Scheme absolutely will help a lot of these numbers if it's an attacking one-gap style.

Chiefs need one more impact rusher, but having 3 guys that can bring heat will do nothing but free up the down lineman to make plays.
Well my point is, Tyson Jackson or Allen Bailey or whatever turd not named Dontari Poe isnt even close to an Antonio Smith type pass rusher, whether it's scheme or not. That is obvious, and that is why, we need more pass rushers like the good pass rushing teams have
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #334
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How many teams out there have 5-6 legitimate pass rushers?
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #335
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Well my point is, Tyson Jackson or Allen Bailey or whatever turd not named Dontari Poe isnt even close to an Antonio Smith type pass rusher, whether it's scheme or not. That is obvious, and that is why, we need more pass rushers like the good pass rushing teams have
Pitoutua knows the Ryan scheme and can plug into a 46. If Poe progresses, you have Poe, Houston, Hali, DJ, and Berry situationally. It's possible a guy like Bailey can thrive if you let him stunt a little bit. Our mission critical is to have 1 guy who can play the role of pass rushing 5-technique.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:53 AM   #336
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I fully expect a lot of turnover on this roster. It'll be interesting to see if Dorsey dips into the FA market when that hasn't been a staple of GB at all.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:01 PM   #337
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I fully expect a lot of turnover on this roster. It'll be interesting to see if Dorsey dips into the FA market when that hasn't been a staple of GB at all.
I don't think Green Bay's roster has needed any major overhauls since the early days of Ron Wolfe.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #338
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I don't think Green Bay's roster has needed any major overhauls since the early days of Ron Wolfe.
No, but there isn't any reason we cant use it to fill a hole or two.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:13 PM   #339
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It's crucial that we get more pass rush from the DL. Hali and Houston are fine, great pass rushers.

Developing Poe is huge and scheme should help some with others, but we need more athleticism up front. The 2 gap big strong guys are useless.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:16 PM   #340
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I'd love to see us sign Ed Reed he brings leadership the defense is missing but it doesn't make sense for him to sign here at this point in his career.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:16 PM   #341
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No, but there isn't any reason we cant use it to fill a hole or two.
Responding to Bad Guy's post regarding the use of free agency by the Pack since Dorsey has been on staff.

The Packers haven't dipped into free agency heavily since Ron Wolfe took over.

They have, however added pieces here and there, most notably Charles Woodson.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:18 PM   #342
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Responding to Bad Guy's post regarding the use of free agency by the Pack since Dorsey has been on staff.

The Packers haven't dipped into free agency heavily since Ron Wolfe took over.

They have, however added pieces here and there, most notably Charles Woodson.
Yep.

I would like to see us target the secondary this year in free agency, maybe not a top notch guy, but either a FS or CB.

People are clamoring for Jarius Byrd, but I'll take William Moore for less money.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:23 PM   #343
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Saturday and Woodson are the 2 free agents that come to mind.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:25 PM   #344
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Turns out the Dorsey basically did wait until Green Bay was eliminated from the playoffs.

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Old 01-13-2013, 12:26 PM   #345
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I'd love to see us sign Ed Reed he brings leadership the defense is missing but it doesn't make sense for him to sign here at this point in his career.
It doesn't make sense for us to sign him at this point in his career either.
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