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Old 01-13-2013, 11:37 AM  
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Tony Sparano scheduled to interview Monday for OLine Job

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Per @mortreport, Tony Sparano is scheduled to interview Monday for the offensive line coach job with Kansas City Chiefs.



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Tony Sparano set to visit Andy Reid on Monday re: Chiefs O-line job after George Warhop decided to remain with Browns. #NFL32

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Old 01-13-2013, 03:53 PM   #181
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At this point Long looks like he will never recover from that injury. It's been two years and he's nowhere close to the player he was.

Brokedick, IMO.
This is the only thing you have said worth anything. He really hasn't recovered well and I'd want a massive workup done before signing him for sure.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:53 PM   #182
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It's too bad Jake Long will never be a Chief.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:55 PM   #183
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Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.
I've seen a couple of plays here and there where I question whether the OT had an assignment or perhaps it was a RB or TE.

But those are plays where there are just absolute whiffs, and it looks like there was confusion.

But when a LT engages with a DE or a LB and just gets beat, there are no guesses.

It's right there in front of your eyes.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:57 PM   #184
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It's interesting that anyone thinks Jake Long is even in play for the Chiefs. They won't even contact his agent, I guarantee it.

It's almost like...someone has a Jake Long bias...and a dream of Jake Long in red.
The entire point being that we are about to hire the guy who drafted him. AND Andy Reid's first big free agent signing when he joined the Eagles? Jon Runyan. AND Long is a FA this year. AND our LT is a FA this year. It's not like some completely random out of left field thought.

I also doubt we sign him simply because I think Albert will sign a reasonable contract and this will be moot... I also have a feeling we will stick with some sort of ZBS and Long won;t be a good fit anyway.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:58 PM   #185
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It's still a stupid fantasy, because Long is not better than Albert, and hasn't been for two seasons.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:00 PM   #186
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:02 PM   #187
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I've seen a couple of plays here and there where I question whether the OT had an assignment or perhaps it was a RB or TE.

But those are plays where there are just absolute whiffs, and it looks like there was confusion.

But when a LT engages with a DE or a LB and just gets beat, there are no guesses.

It's right there in front of your eyes.
What if he is supposed to engage then break off? What if it's a situation like the Redskins pulled on Dallas where half the time they didn't even try to block Ware using misdirection instead? I agree that MOST of the time you can guess correctly but when you are talking about such a low percentage number (sacks allowed) even a few wrong guesses and those figures skew massively.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:05 PM   #188
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Everyone but AustinChief can't be wrong, can they?
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:05 PM   #189
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It's right there in front of your eyes.
BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:06 PM   #190
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What if he is supposed to engage then break off? What if it's a situation like the Redskins pulled on Dallas where half the time they didn't even try to block Ware using misdirection instead? I agree that MOST of the time you can guess correctly but when you are talking about such a low percentage number (sacks allowed) even a few wrong guesses and those figures skew massively.

I think you are trying to make sound far more difficult than it is just to make your boy look better.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:06 PM   #191
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BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)
Dude, I already told you PFF only confirms my own observations.

Knock this shit off. You aren't smarter than everyone else here.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:07 PM   #192
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BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)
I say you and I agree to disagree on this one, since we neither trust each other on this specific subject.
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There's a reason he's going to hit the open market, too.

Damaged goods.
^ This. There are two positions that NEVER hit the open market unless there are issues with them. Franchise QBs and Franchise LTs. If Long is elite then he is a franchise LT and if the Dolphins are willing to let him walk then that says a ton about him.
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Everyone but AustinChief can't be wrong, can they?
He certainly thinks they can.
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Everyone but AustinChief can't be wrong, can they?
Go on a Dallas BBS and tell them Tony Romo isn't a top 10 QB... see if 99% disagree there.

Fact is, I have dozens of friends who are rabid NFL fans of other teams and I have asked this question a number of times. Not ONE person placed Albert as a top 8 LT only TWO guys had him top 10.

CP is usually pretty damn good about not falling into the homer trap... Albert seems to be one of our blind spots.
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