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Old 01-13-2013, 11:37 AM  
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Tony Sparano scheduled to interview Monday for OLine Job

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Per @mortreport, Tony Sparano is scheduled to interview Monday for the offensive line coach job with Kansas City Chiefs.



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Tony Sparano set to visit Andy Reid on Monday re: Chiefs O-line job after George Warhop decided to remain with Browns. #NFL32

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Old 01-13-2013, 04:09 PM   #196
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so every play the Dolphins run to mask Jake Long's deficiency is they do some sort of chip block or disengage stunt? Against every NFL team. All 16 weeks. So Jake Long shouldnt be credited for those "blocks"

That's what you are saying. lol

85 to 90 percent of the time the LT is put on an island to block whatever LBer, DE, whatever rusher is coming off that edge.

In run blocking it is even EASIER to tell his assignment pending the running play, because the LT will identify and go after the guy lol
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:10 PM   #197
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I think you are trying to make sound far more difficult than it is just to make your boy look better.
No, my intent is to show that people like GoCgiefs who trout out PFFs numbers on this have no clue. This has nothing to do with Long, I honestly have no clue what his numbers on PFF are.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:12 PM   #198
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his numbers awful, if you couldnt tell
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:13 PM   #199
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fan perception about OTs is not the same as a position like QB, RB, or WR.

Albert has gotten little attention because the QB position has sucked the entire time he's been in the league. If he was protecting Manning's blindside he'd be one of the top LTs in the game.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:13 PM   #200
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^ This. There are two positions that NEVER hit the open market unless there are issues with them. Franchise QBs and Franchise LTs. If Long is elite then he is a franchise LT and if the Dolphins are willing to let him walk then that says a ton about him.
Actually if they let him walk it's because they have a RT who filled in at LT and did a fantastic job (Martin) and Long is due big money. A team with as many holes as The Dolphins have can't afford to carry two quality LTs. Period.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:14 PM   #201
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fan perception about OTs is not the same as a position like QB, RB, or WR.

Albert has gotten little attention because the QB position has sucked the entire time he's been in the league. If he was protecting Manning's blindside he'd be one of the top LTs in the game.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:15 PM   #202
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so you're saying a team with HOLES like the Dolphins shouldnt keep Long

but a 2-14 with more holes than a french whore, in the Chiefs, should trade a 3rd rounder for him.

LOL
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:16 PM   #203
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so every play the Dolphins run to mask Jake Long's deficiency is they do some sort of chip block or disengage stunt? Against every NFL team. All 16 weeks. So Jake Long shouldnt be credited for those "blocks"

That's what you are saying. lol

85 to 90 percent of the time the LT is put on an island to block whatever LBer, DE, whatever rusher is coming off that edge.

In run blocking it is even EASIER to tell his assignment pending the running play, because the LT will identify and go after the guy lol
No that isn't what I am saying. So far you have been a consistent idiot in this thread...and this post didn't disappoint. My attack of the idea that you can tell 100% of the time who was supposed to block who and the exact breakdown of a play has NOTHING to do with Jake Long. At no point did I even infer that. Put away your jump to conclusions mat.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:17 PM   #204
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Was PFF wrong when they graded Long as the top LT in the game 3 years ago?
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:18 PM   #205
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so you're saying a team with HOLES like the Dolphins shouldnt keep Long

but a 2-14 with more holes than a french whore, in the Chiefs, should trade a 3rd rounder for him.

LOL
Dolphins have more holes than the Chiefs. We are far from airtight but our record comes from ONE glaring hole on offense and just horrendous coaching. If we don;t go ZBS and Albert is either hurt or asking for a ton of cash.. then yes a 3rd to guarantee signing Long is worth it in my book. That's a ton of "ifs" before we get to that point.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:19 PM   #206
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Dolphins have more holes than the Chiefs

that's it lol, I've read it all
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #207
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fan perception about OTs is not the same as a position like QB, RB, or WR.

Albert has gotten little attention because the QB position has sucked the entire time he's been in the league. If he was protecting Manning's blindside he'd be one of the top LTs in the game.
If he was protecting the blind side of even a league average QB, he would get more recognition.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #208
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Bottom line, we already have a solid LT that we should re-sign. There is 0 reason to waste any draft picks on a position in which we already have solid starter.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:22 PM   #209
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Was PFF wrong when they graded Long as the top LT in the game 3 years ago?
Man you are all sorts of stupid. It isn;t about right/wrong. I can guess right too! It is when you try to trot out the NUMBERS that show how ignorant you are.

They may have been right, they may have been dead wrong. I'm surer Milkman will tell you that those numbers from 3 years ago are wrong because he received help or whatever... I disagree... but the fact is, PFF doesn't prove shit either way. You'll never see me trot out one of their subjective stats to try to back up shit. They do however have some OBJECTIVE stats that are worth using. (the same stats NFL teams actually pay them for) Oline rating just isn't one of them.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:23 PM   #210
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Nice.. I do approve! Winston better shut-up his fat-lip mouth and step-up his game or he'll be riding a disgusting bus back to some town in Texas!
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