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Old 01-14-2013, 08:49 AM  
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Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?

Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?
Why would you want to make it harder or impossible for a woman to defend herself against rape or sexual assault?

Remember, just because you are the wormy squirly girly man type and most women can kick your ass anyway does not mean there are not others out there she can't and may need a little help to equalize..
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:50 PM   #31
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Holy balls.

When Denise has the most insightful post in the entire thread, you know you're in a thread full of winners.
The adventures of Direckshun continue losing ground in the number of posters who even bother to respond to his nonsense he reaches out to meme desperate for a reaction. Stay tuned to reality DC~
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:53 PM   #32
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Holy balls.

When Denise has the most insightful post in the entire thread, you know you're in a thread full of winners.
You realize, of course, that what is insightful to one is not to another.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:27 PM   #33
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Maybe because they realize with a gun in the house a woman is more likely to be killed by her partner than a stranger. And her child is more likely to be killed as well.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0427101532.htm

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
That study doesn't seem very useful though.

It includes nuggets like this:

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Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method
But what are we supposed to do with that information? That's like saying "Most vehicle accidents happen within 10 miles of your home." Yes, that's true. You should move, and perhaps your odds of not getting in a vehicle accident will improve. Right?

But think about the statement. It doesn't say that a suicide would be prevented by not having a gun in the house. It just says that when a gun is available, the odds are higher that it would be a gun that's used as opposed to pills or hanging. It says nothing to the safety of the actual weapon. Only that when a suicidal person has choices available, the odds are higher they will choose the most effective method available. Shocker. And why are they even including suicide anyway?

Also, there's this:

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"There is compelling evidence that a gun in the home is a risk factor for intimidation and for killing women in their homes, and it appears that a gun in the home may more likely be used to threaten intimates than to protect against intruders," wrote Hemenway.
They include the potential for intimidation to support their results. So they're essentially saying it's easier to scare someone when you have a gun, therefore guns are bad and makes a home less safe. Which conveniently, makes any home with a gun a "Greater risk".

They even admit to these problems in the actual study:

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Although these studies are useful in demonstrating an association between access to firearms and rates of homicide and suicide at the aggregate level, it is not possible with this methodology to adequately assess whether access to a gun increases the risk of a violent death at the individual level.
You think? Hmmm.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #34
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That study doesn't seem very useful though.

It includes nuggets like this:



But what are we supposed to do with that information? That's like saying "Most vehicle accidents happen within 10 miles of your home." Yes, that's true. You should move, and perhaps your odds of not getting in a vehicle accident will improve. Right?

But think about the statement. It doesn't say that a suicide would be prevented by not having a gun in the house. It just says that when a gun is available, the odds are higher that it would be a gun that's used as opposed to pills or hanging. It says nothing to the safety of the actual weapon. Only that when a suicidal person has choices available, the odds are higher they will choose the most effective method available. Shocker. And why are they even including suicide anyway?

Also, there's this:



They include the potential for intimidation to support their results. So they're essentially saying it's easier to scare someone when you have a gun, therefore guns are bad and makes a home less safe. Which conveniently, makes any home with a gun a "Greater risk".

They even admit to these problems in the actual study:



You think? Hmmm.
Meme??? what else would you expect from one of the batshit craziest posters here ever? Seriously has this train wreck ever, and I mean ever posted anything of value here?
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:46 PM   #35
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Meme??? what else would you expect from one of the batshit craziest posters here ever? Seriously has this train wreck ever, and I mean ever posted anything of value here?
Dumb****shun bought into it hook, line and sinker, though.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:05 PM   #36
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Dumb****shun bought into it hook, line and sinker, though.
He is just desperate to get someone to respond to his tired act. I am convinced he is so desperate to get reaction he will resort to anything including sucking up to meme. I am glad she has moved past rubbing the small patch over Gannon and Edwards~
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:10 PM   #37
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Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?
Probably the same reasons as the pro-gun crowd--the constant yap-yap-yap-yap. Geez, just shut it already.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:15 PM   #38
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Probably the same reasons as the pro-gun crowd--the constant yap-yap-yap-yap. Geez, just shut it already.
As soon as the lying shitbags using false statistics to try to punish law abiding gun owners to force their agenda on the American public we will shut up. Geez would you just **** off already?
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:32 PM   #39
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R8ers has backed away from posting articles with his ramblings for his famous inability to understand them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:34 AM   #40
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R8ers has backed away from posting articles with his ramblings for his famous inability to not understand them.
Two Words you fat ****

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Old 01-15-2013, 01:37 AM   #41
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Strike a nerve?

I am sure some know nothing bullshit from your inbox should make yourself feel better.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:07 AM   #42
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And if they ride in a car they are more likely to be killed in a car wreck....


We are not talking about "more likely" we are talking about actual sexual assaults and or Rape....

Would you rather be raped or have a gun to defend yourself?
I will not own a gun. That does not mean I chose to be raped. It's a false either/or created by the gun industry.
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That study doesn't seem very useful though.

It includes nuggets like this:

But what are we supposed to do with that information? That's like saying "Most vehicle accidents happen within 10 miles of your home." Yes, that's true. You should move, and perhaps your odds of not getting in a vehicle accident will improve. Right?

But think about the statement. It doesn't say that a suicide would be prevented by not having a gun in the house. It just says that when a gun is available, the odds are higher that it would be a gun that's used as opposed to pills or hanging. It says nothing to the safety of the actual weapon. Only that when a suicidal person has choices available, the odds are higher they will choose the most effective method available. Shocker. And why are they even including suicide anyway?
This is a good post, but I think you miss the thrust of what memyselfI was arguing. Which is particularly easy to do, because this thread is so obviously, transparently silly.

Nobody is advocating a repeal of the 2nd amendment, nor against the right of women to own firearms. The OP is the umpteenth argument by a gun rights advocate against a strawman position on this forum since Newtown. It's getting pretty repetitive in here.

Where this thread goes into even sillier territory is suggesting that banning all guns (I guess that's what the OP's talking about?) would inherently be bad for women, because they would undoubtedly, unequivocably be exposed to more violence without firearms.

The point of memyselfI's post was to illustrate that this isn't necessarily correct. Having more guns around doesn't de facto spare women from harm.

None of this detracts, however, from how stupid the OP is.
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By the way, to further expose how stupid this thread is, here are the expected reform suggestions to be made by Biden:
  • universal background checks
  • close the gunshow loophole
  • limits on magazine capacity
  • assault weapons ban
  • some added security measures for public schools
Tell me -- how are any of these making it "impossible for women to defend themselves," as the OP inelegantly argued?
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:48 AM   #45
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