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Old 01-14-2013, 06:53 AM  
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East West Shrine Game

East West Shrine Game - NFL Network – Saturday January 19th at 3:00 PM CST.

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http://www.shrinegame.com/Teams/westRosterNew.aspx

I like the 2nd QB on the East roster, Colby Cameron as a possible 2nd QB for the Chiefs to draft. Smaller school, Louisiana Tech and not lots of experience but won the Sammy Baugh award for the nation’s top passer.

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Old 01-15-2013, 11:06 AM   #16
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Kansas City - Iowa wide receiver Keenan Davis, Portland State kicker Zach Brown, Mount Union wide receiver Jasper Collins
Huh, I find the new coaching/personnel staff interviewing a Kicker somewhat interesting.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:32 PM   #17
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Keenan Davis, huh?

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Old 01-15-2013, 04:38 PM   #18
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Huh, I find the new coaching/personnel staff interviewing a Kicker somewhat interesting.
I find it encouraging. I've had enough of Succop, unless he can be coached up.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:55 PM   #19
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AJ Klein would be a nice addition to this team in the middle rounds. I personally would prefer Jake Knott who probably would also be playing if it weren't for his shoulder... but hes also more injury prone. At the same time hes real tough and always plays through injury... this is the first time hes had surgery during the season and thats only because it was in his best interest to be NFL ready.

But either one would play ILB for us.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:37 PM   #20
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I love Micah Hyde. And I like Corey Fuller a lot too.
Not a fan of Hyde. I've always thought he was overrated.. Maybe if he bulks up he could be a safety...
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:18 PM   #21
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EAST TEAM
Coach: Jerry Glanville
Offense:
Terron Armstead, OL, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
WR Emory Blake, WR, Auburn
QB Colby Cameron, QB, Louisiana Tech
Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
Jordan Devey, OL, Memphis
R.J. Dill, OL, Rutgers
Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech
Ray Graham, RB, Pittsburgh
Montel Harris, RB, Temple
Garth Heikkinen, OL, Minnesota-Duluth
Erik Highsmith, WR, North Carolina
Mark Jackson, OL, Glenville State
D.C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
T.J. Johnson, OL, South Carolina
Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State
Eric Kush, OL, California (Pa.)
Chris Pantale, TE, Boston College
Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
Matt Sewell, OL, McMaster (Ontario, Canada)
Rodney Smith, WR, Florida State
Nick Speller, OL, Massachusetts
Zac Stacy, RB, Vanderbilt
Matt Stankiewitch, OL, Penn State
Nathan Stanley, QB, Southeastern La.
Trent Steelman, WR, Army
Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida
Brandon Turner, WR, Navy
Early Watford, OL, James Madison


Colby Cameron may be a sleeper pick in the later rounds or be brought in as a UDFA. I think he could fit in well with Reid's scheme.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:33 AM   #22
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Out of all of those guys, Melvin White, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette is the best player I have seen. Look for him to turn some heads. He is 6' 3", has great coverage skills, and plays with a mean streak.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:04 AM   #23
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Not a fan of Hyde. I've always thought he was overrated.. Maybe if he bulks up he could be a safety...
The guy has an uncanny nose for the ball and the ability to score from anywhere on the field.

He's definitely NOT overrated.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:04 AM   #24
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Out of all of those guys, Melvin White, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette is the best player I have seen. Look for him to turn some heads. He is 6' 3", has great coverage skills, and plays with a mean streak.


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Old 01-16-2013, 12:39 PM   #25
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:58 PM   #26
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A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa State (6013, 246 and 4.70): We were pleasantly surprised to see Klein at practice today, as he has apparently accepted an invitation to next week’s Senior Bowl. He continues to make the most of his opportunity here in St. Pete, as today he displayed solid speed and athleticism versus the run and pass. He showed good instincts in zone coverage on one play by taking a solid drop and following the QB to the ball in order to break up a pass. On run plays he was quick to fill gaps and was consequently able to beat blocks to the point of attack.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:47 AM   #27
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I'm not a KSU fan by any means, but I find myself rooting for Klein to get a shot somewhere.
Me too. I doubt he catches on anywhere, but AFAIC if he's available in the 5-7 pick him up. I figure if he scores 3 TDs as a gadget player he's earned his way. Particularly the way we've been drafting.

I think he's probably good for that. He's athletic enough to play Wildcat or line him up for a WR pass or something. I don't hate his as a gadget player and he might be coachable enough to develop.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:16 PM   #28
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A few players that looked good during the game –

#81 WR Anthony Amos, 5’11”, 183 lbs- Middle Tennessee State – end around for touchdown and several catches. Anthony did a good job of catching and running with the ball after the catch. Reports said he also had a good week of practice.

#84 TE Zach Sudfeld, 6’6” 260 lbs – Nevada – looked good blocking during the game. Had 1 dropped pass but also looked like he could be a pass catcher. See Great Blue North excerpts below for more information on Sudfeld.

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For me he was the top player on the West Squad. He’s a solid inline blocker and is a legit downfield receiving threat even though he has average speed. He was even bigger looking than his impressive numbers when I stood next to him on the sidelines at practice. He repeatedly made stretching catches, with hands that are soft and I would guess are going to make some scouts ooh and ah when measured at the COMBINE. His footwork at tapping his feet inbounds was also impressive. He’s not a dump off option, he’s a real weapon who can troll the middle as well as stretch the field. If he was a “sleeper” or flying under the radar I don’t think he is any more. Lots of folks noticed him in Nevada’s Bowl game, and he just reinforced what we all felt we saw there with his work down here this week. Color him, moving up Draft Boards, and reminding me of JASON WITTTEN.<>
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The star of the day to me was a repeat: ZACH SUDFELD/TE/Nevada. This guy just keeps getting 10 plus yards downfield at over 250 lbs. and shows great catching mechanics and footwork. He had two more excellent TD catches on high throws where he pulled the ball in and also managed to tap both feet before going out of bounds. He’s also doing some solid work inline blocking in the running game. I’m positive he’s going to be in my TOP 100 after his work down here and in the Nevada Bowl game. Laugh if you want, but he’s looking like a poor man’s TONY GONZALEZ to me.
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I was most impressed with the work of #84/ZACH SUDFELD/NEVADA. SUDFELD really caught m eye in the Nevada Bowl game as a downfield receiving threat despite his 6’7/255 size. He did it again today. He’s pretty quick off the snap of the ball, and his long legs really eat up yardage as he gains momentum on his routes. He’s a legit middle to long receiving threat, with good hands and is not afraid to block in-line.
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#47 LB A.J. Klein, 6’1”, 245 lbs, Iowa State – Looked good coming up and making the tackle. See report below for more info.

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#98 DE Devin Taylor South Carolina 6’7”, 275 lbs,- 6 tackles, 2 for loss, an 1 forced fumble. Reports said he was dominating in practice. On one rush play Devin struck OT Tanner Hawkinson with his hands and sent him to the ground.

#10 QB Matt Scott, Arizona, 6’3”, 208 lbs – QB throwing mechanics looked good. Read that he had trouble being under center during some practice sessions but looked good during the game. Matt had a nice touchdown pass. Really did not get to see him that much because had to split time with other West QBs. QB play not very good in this game but Matt Scott looked to be one of the best and worth a later round draft pick.
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I don't usually put too much time into the East-West Shrine Game but, this year I took notes and invested some time in it since our picks are so high... I put much more stock in watching the Senior Bowl practices rather than the actual game but, they don't show the East-West Shrine game practices so keep that in mind. Here's what I saw...

The Bad

The o-line play was horrible. I know these guys will be late round picks and there wasn't much time to gel but, I don't remember it ever being this bad. Kirk Ferentz's son played some center and guard but he was nothing special. There were some guys that were alright at run blocking but no one was good at pass blocking imo. Be glad we took a couple of o-linemen last year...

The QB play was also horrible. It was an atroicious display of arm strength and accuracy all around. I've never see so many balls hit the dirt. Klein is basically a poor man's Tebow. Most of the QBs were really bad but, a couple were OK. However, "OK" probably isn't good for the East-West Shrine game LOL. I probably wouldn't take any of them but here's what I thought.

Matt Scott, QB, Arizona was decent. The guy is short and fast. He came in and moved the chains. He has no arm strength and reminds me of Troy Smith. He had good command of the huddle and was fairly accurate. He is a longshot and probably won't make a practice squad.

Nathan Stanley, QB, Southeast Louisiana was the best QB. His college numbers are bad so this was suprising. He had like 9 TDs and 9 Ints at SE Louisiana last year. He played two years at Ole Miss and tranferred to SE Louisianna. He is a natural thrower and throws a pretty ball. He puts some good zip on it. He is extremely RAW but, he seems smart and has good command of the huddle. He was accurate and had a strong arm. He moved the chains and did a good job. He will probably be a practice squad guy that could turn into a back up.... MAYBE...

Zach Brown, K, Portland State was terrible. Reports said we had talked with this kid. He had a weak leg on kickoffs and missed an easy FG. He didn't seem confident. He won't get drafted.

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Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida had a strong leg, was accurate, and confident. He's a good kicker and will probably be drafted. He had was good on kickoffs and had a good day.

Zac Stacy, RB, Vanderbilt was a decnet player. He has good quickness and a nice burst. He kind of dances around a lot and lost some yards a couple of times because of it. He also dropped a pass. Maybe he was nervous? Honestly, I expected more and was a little bit let down. I liked him at Vandy.

Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M was a good downhill runner. He fumbled early but came back and led the game in rushing yards. He was unspectacular imo. Reminded me of Jackie Battle a little bit. He seemed full of himself and made the coach's shitlist at A&M. Late in the game, he brought water to the o-linemen on the bench. It's like he was trying to hard to come off as a good guy on TV. I wouldn't draft him.

Zach Line, RB, SMU had a solid game. He's not fast and runs downhill. He reminds me of Jacob Hester, the RB/FB tweener from LSU. He's not really great at anything but is alright at everything. I would pass.

Montel Harris, RB, Temple was a good pass catcher. Not a very good runner or blocker but, he can catch balls out of the backfield. He is like a poor man's Kevin Faulk.

Kerwynn Williams, RB, Utah State was one of my favorite players in the game. He was one of the best players on the field. He is just a really good all around back. Mayock said he was the best blocker out of the bunch, he has great hands, and he is elusive. He is a good runner, he doesn't fumble, and he is an excellent returner. He is extremely agile and quick. He is small at 5'8" but weighs in at 196 lbs. He reminds me of Warrick Dunn but, he has more meat on him. He's built like a rock. Charles Johnson said he reminds him of McCluster but, I don't see it. He is bigger, tougher and is a true RB. This guy is a good football player and will be playing on Sunday's as a role player and would be a very good back up RB. He might even suprise and start one day.

Chris Pantale, TE, Boston College had a good game. He is a good all around player who increased his stock imo. He catches with his hands, he is a good blocker, and he runs good routes. He caught everything thrown his way and moved the chains. He doesn't seem fast but he is sneaky and gets open. He was a team captain at Boston College and will make a team.

Trent Steelman, QB, Army is an interesting prospect. He is very smart and is a QB tweener type. He ran the option and the wildcat well but, didn't throw a pass. He lined up at receiver and dropped two passes but, he did run good routes and he was open. He lined up at RB and had a couple of nice runs. He was the long snapper and did a good job with that. Mayock thinks he should play safety. I think we better pass on this guy. He will be a good feel good story but, I just don't know guys. We've seen this deal before. He still has his Army contract to deal with. He's fast, quick, and has a lot of heart but, he probably won't make a roster. He has a ceiling as a gunner on special teams imo. He will get a lot of hype but, I would pass.

Keenan Davis, WR, Iowa was a pretty good player. Reports last week said the Chiefs talked to this guy. He is a big receiver at 6'2" and weighs 215 lbs. He is a very good blocker and he caught the ball with his hands. He is not elusive, quick, or agile but, he has good speed and can get open. He runs good routes. He would be good in the slot and he plays like Joe Jurivicious. He probably reminds Reid of Riley Cooper. He would be a good late round pick.

Emory Blake, WR, Auburn is a solid player. He has good speed, runs perfect routes, and has good hands. He is a possession type receiver and has led Auburn for the last two years in receptions, yards, and TDs. He made a couple of good sideline catches. He is Jeff Blake's son so he has gotten a lot of practice over the years with his QB dad. He was open all day. I like this kid as a late round pick. He could be a good sleeper pick. However, he could go earlier as his stock is on the rise.

Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech had a good day. He is former NFL CB Corey Fuller's son (doesn't that make you feel old! LOL). He is a speed receiver and he drew two pass interference calls on deep routes. He's faster than his dad was. He has good hands and is quick. He would also be a good late round pick but, like Blake, his stock is on the rise.

Chad Bumphis, WR, Miss. St. had a good game. He is a possession type receiver with good hands. He will probably be a slot receiver in the NFL. He runs good routes but he seeems kind of slow to me. He didn't show much burst or quickness but he does produce. Mayock really likes him and talked about some big games he had in college. He just looks funny to me. He looks kind of chunky and out of shape. He looks more like a RB than a WR and I would pass. He's an odd prospect.

Jasper Collins, WR, Mt. Union is another guy that Mayock loves. He reminds Mayock of Dane Sanzenbacher and he does me too. He fumbled a punt as a returner but, played very well at receiver. He stands 5'10" and weighs 190 lbs. He runs perfect routes and catches the ball with his hands. He will get drafted in the later rounds. He is also a very smart player. He is a good quick slot possession guy. Think Lance Moore. The Chiefs were seen talking with this guy so keep an eye on him.

Anthony Amos, WR, Middle Tennesee State had a good game. Mayock is high on this guy. He is kind of small. They list him at 6' 185 lbs. He looks even smaller than that to me. He is very fast and elusive. He scored a TD on a WR reverse and is a YAC kind of guy. He can make people miss. He runs sloppy routes and catches the ball in his gut. He probably doesn't have good hands. When interviewed, he seemed as dumb as a box of rocks. If he turned out to be a good player, I see his ceiling as someone like Donte Stallworth. We have seen this type of prospect before. Think Dexter Jackson. The media will make him out to be a small school - good story type of guy in the draft. I would pass. Don't believe the hype and I think he's fools gold. I really don't like the way he catches the ball with his body.

Eric Highsmith, WR, North Carolina is a tall lanky WR that stands 6'3" and weighs in at 195 lbs. He didn't come into the game until the end of the 4th quarter so it kind of makes me think he didn't practice well. However, he was impressive. He ran good routes and made the catch of the game. It was a sideline catch in which he went up for the ball and came down with both feet in bounds despite being pushed by the CB. I liked him and he caught the ball well.

Defense

The safety talent was pretty lackluster and there were only a couple of guys worth noting. None of the players were awful but, only one stood out.

Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond was intriging. He stands 6'4" and weighs in at 230 lbs. However, he doesn't look that big when you watch him. He's quick and agile and takes long strides kind of like Taylor Mays. I don't think he'll be as fast as Mays but, he is a good center fielder. He is excellent in run support and can lay the wood when he wants to. He rotated between both safety positions and this could be valuable to KC. He would allow us to move Berry to either spot and not miss a beat. He is basically everything that Kendrick Lewis is not. Mayock loves this kid and he reminds him of Cam Chancellor from the Seahawks. I would concur with that. Mayock says he can really cover TEs and we need to give this guy a serious look. This guy's stock is on the rise and he looks like a 3rd or 4th round pick to me.

Rashard Hall, S, Clemson stands 6' 2" and weighs 210 lbs. Jerry Glanville, coach of the East team, said to watch him in his pregame interview. He said he was underrated and was a really good thumper. I never noticed him in the game so take it for what it's worth.


Earl Wolff, S/CB, NC State made a nice pick in the end zone. He looks fast but is small for a safety at 6' 196 lbs. He will probably play CB in the NFL.

There was some very good talent at LB in this game. I was pleasently suprised.

Keith Pough, OLB, Howard got a lot of hype from Mayock as a leader. I guess he had a good week of practice and was very vocal. I didn't see anything that stood out in the game. Mayock said he reminds him of a poor man's Sean Weatherspoon.

Sio Moore, OLB, UConn was a good solid player. He is a sideline to sideline player and a very solid tackler. He reminds me of a poor man's Alec Ogletree. He would probably be a good special teamer and a good back up. He's fast and can cover. He's not flashy but, doesn't miss tackles period. He's probably a 4-3 or cover 2 linebacker.

Nick Moody, OLB, Florida State is a converted safety. He is very fast and reacts to the ball well. He reminds me of Dakota Watson and will probably be a special teams ace. He's a good tackler.

Matt Evans, MLB, New Hampshire is a smart and solid player. He's another great tackler and is a thumper. He recovered a fumble and had several tackles. He had 480 career tackles at New Hampshire. He finds the ball and reacts well. He is also really good at making the reads and is a general back there.

AJ Klein, LB, Iowa State had a fantastic game. I would say he was the second or third best player on the field. He stands 6'2" and weighs in at 244 lbs. He looks smaller than he is listed to me but, he plays big. He is disruptive and is constantly in the backfield. He can cover and has good hands. He doesn't seem to be a thumper but is a very very good tackler. Mayock says he is either a 4-3 OLB or a 3-4 MLB at the will position. There are a lot of Chiefs fans who are high on this guy. I hadn't seen him play until yesterday but he is worthy of the hype imo. Mayock has him going in the 3rd or 4th round and we should try and get this guy imo. He's a playmaker who had 5 picks and returned 4 TDs at Iowa State. He is such a good tackler that he reminds of former Steelers great Jack Hamm. I know those are big shoes to fill but this guy could really turn into to something imo.

The strongest position group at this game were the cornerbacks. Honestly, I didn't see a bad one which is good because we need a couple. There is going to be great value at this position throughout the entire draft.

Darren Hester, CB, UCLA stands 6'1" and weighs 205 lbs. He's a good cover corner and can run with anyone. He did draw two pass interference calls against the speedy Fuller but they were unnecessary. The coverage was good. He just didn't get his head around and he seemed nervous. He would be a good project.

Nigel Malone, CB, K-State jumped a route and returned it for a pick six. He had 12 interceptions in his last two years at K-State. He was a JUCO transfer who really stepped up his game. He is built like Richard Marshall and reminds me of him. He stands 5'10" and weighs in at 180 lbs. He's quick and plays fast. I didn't see him make a tackle but he has a nose for the ball and is worth a look.

Brandon Smith, CB, UGA is a small guy at 5'10" and 165 lbs. He got beat for a TD despite good coverage. Later, he made a nice interception. Smith is incredibly fast. I expect him to run a very fast 40 at the combine. He was a three year starter at UGA before losing his job last year. Swann, the kid who replaced him is awesome and will probably be a top 10 pick someday but, Smith has been inconsistant at times. Again, this guy is lightning fast and played both WR and CB. He was a really good returner at Georgia but, I am skeptical of this guy. I would pass. It just seems like he "checks out" at times.

Melvin White, CB, Louisianna Lafayette is one of my favorite players in this class. He stands 6'3" and weighs 191 lbs. He looks and moves like Brandon Carr. He was only thrown at twice in this game and played the entire second half. Both passes were screen passes and he overpursued and missed a tackle on one of them. However, he was great in run support. He is fast in pursuit. He's a nasty player and will get in the scrum. I want this guy bad. He plays like James Hasty and will bump a receiver at the line. Hopefully, we can get him in the later rounds.

Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois stands 6'1 and weighs 193 lbs. He's another guy who had a good game. He is a good tackler and had the best interception. It was in the endzone and he was covering a TE that was 6'6". He out jumped the guy and picked it off while falling backwards. He's worth a look for sure.

Josh Johnson, CB, Purdue stands 5'11" and weighs 195 lbs. He had a really good return and is more quick than fast. He was good in coverage and is a solid tackler. He reminds me of Arenas but, he might be a abetter returner

Kahlid Wooten, CB, Nevada is about the same size as Johnson and has good cover skills. He can really jump and made a nice pick. He would be a NB in the pros.


Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech really had a good day. He was thrown at once and had a great diving break up. He is a lanky guy at 6' 187 lbs. He is a very fast cover corner. I didn't see him make a tackle but he plays fast and is a great prospect. He needs to get a good look.

There was a lot of good talent on the d-line. Seemed like they got pressure all day.

Brandon Thurman, DE, Arkansas-Pine Bluff had a good game. He's a 4-3 DE and he gets into the backfield regulary. Mayock really likes him and said he had a good week of practice. He has a high motor but, he's really RAW.

Izaan Cross, DT, Georgia Tech was a pleasent suprise. He weighs 304 lbs. and stands 6'4". He consistantly got good push and really helped the linebackers penetrate. He made a nice tackle in the backfield. Wonder if he could play DE in the 3-4? I like him.

Joe Vallano, DE, Maryland consistantly got in the backfield. He is a bull rusher and weighs 305 lbs. standing 6'2". He looks like a 3-4 DE and is worth a look.

Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina was the player of the game. I can't see him getting out of the 3rd round but might even go in the second. He stands 6'7" and weighs 275 lbs. Mayock thinks he can gain 10-15 lbs. The dude had two tackles for a loss, a sack, and a forced fumble. He was basically unblockable and wreaked havoc. Maybe he could play DE in the 3-4 and be a player like Aaron Smith was for Pittsburgh? He looks like he could get 8-10 sacks a year as a 3-4 DE. He will get serious consideration from Andy Reid. He was a man among boys.

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