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Old 01-14-2013, 09:49 AM  
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Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?
Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?
Why would you want to make it harder or impossible for a woman to defend herself against rape or sexual assault?

Remember, just because you are the wormy squirly girly man type and most women can kick your ass anyway does not mean there are not others out there she can't and may need a little help to equalize..
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:15 PM   #121
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I would tend to agree. I fail to see what any of the expected reforms Obama/Biden will be suggesting tomorrow change this.

Nor do I know anybody arguing against this. It's more strawman bullshit.
No, it's not a strawman. It speaks directly to the intent of this thread. Just because you find something uncomfortable to deal with, it does not morph into a dishonest debate tactic.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:24 PM   #122
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concrete measures? You're a ****ing idiot! Handuns were banned in Chicago...was there still a ton of gun crime? ****ing dumb ass
This makes no sense.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:26 PM   #123
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1- Tell me exactly what a "Gun Show Loophole" is
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2- I already have a CCW and I am fingerprinted by homeland security and assessed as being "Not a threat" because I transport hazardous materials.
Currently, I can walk into any gun store in NC and buy any gun I want that is legal after filling out a piece of paper, then I walk out of the store with it.

Should I have to wait to buy a gun or is this a good idea?
You should have to wait however long a universal background check would require to take.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:27 PM   #124
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No, it doesn't address the link between disarmament and disempowerment.
That link is tenuous at best.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:29 PM   #125
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I think that an armed woman who is well trained/educated in the use of said firearm is less likely to be the victim of a violent crime, including rape. Why would someone want to take away that woman's firearm?
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:30 PM   #126
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Here's the thing. If you look at gun legislation as a set of reasonable rules designed to prevent the wrong people from gaining possession of firearms then the corollary is also true. Given the validity of the second amendment, gun legislation should also encourage the right people to be armed. Such as women who are at risk of being victims of violent crimes.
I have never said women can't or shouldn't own a gun.

My point in this thread was that in the very specific case of rape\sexual assault the best defense is knowing self-defense(hand-to-hand).
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:32 PM   #127
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I have never said women can't or shouldn't own a gun.

My point in this thread was that in the very specific case of rape\sexual assault the best defense is knowing self-defense(hand-to-hand).
This thread is specifically about how the anti gun crowd hates women.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:34 PM   #128
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This thread is specifically about how the anti gun crowd hates women.
The OP asks "Why would you want to make it harder or impossible for a woman to defend herself against rape or sexual assault?"
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:35 PM   #129
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This makes no sense.
Of course to you it doesn't because it blows a huge hole in your argument
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The OP asks "Why would you want to make it harder or impossible for a woman to defend herself against rape or sexual assault?"
Right. I think that an armed woman who is well trained/educated in the use of said firearm is less likely to be the victim of a violent crime, including rape. Why would someone want to take away that woman's firearm?
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:37 PM   #131
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Here you go.



You should have to wait however long a universal background check would require to take.
I already have 10+ guns ...... Why?
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:39 PM   #132
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I already have 10+ guns ...... Why?
Because they are doing this for the children! No matter that it accomplishes zip point @#%$. We feel better that we are actually doing something
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Right. I think that an armed woman who is well trained/educated in the use of said firearm is less likely to be the victim of a violent crime, including rape. Why would someone want to take away that woman's firearm?
I don't want to take that away. I just don't think it matters in everyday normal real life situations when it comes to rape\sexual assault.
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I don't want to take that away. I just don't think it matters in everyday normal real life situations when it comes to rape\sexual assault.

Cool. Then you are not "anti gun."
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I don't want to take that away. I just don't think it matters in everyday normal real life situations when it comes to rape\sexual assault.

*Exactly what makes a Liberal a Liberal
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