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Old 01-14-2013, 08:34 PM  
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New York the rest of the United States says thank you!!

I'm sorry in the short term for NY gun owners but in the long term this will likely result in only good supreme court rulings. I suspect this won't even be permitted to go into effect. Paging Alan Gura time to earn some money in NYS!

Basically they're declaring an assault weapon as anything having even one feature. 7 round magazine limits and removal of the old grandfathering in 94 of larger capacity magazines. If you don't destroy them you're a felon!

This one is going to get squarely kicked in the nuts by the courts. Which is good, if they went less extreme the Supreme Court might not rule so harshly against them. This way not only will they lose their HiCap and AW bans, but almost certainly every other state in the union too.

Sucks for you in the short term NY, but your sacrifice will pay off in the long term!

Talk about taking one for the team!

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-senate-lead...172207666.html

NY Senate leader says he expects gun control bill
By MICHAEL GORMLEY | Associated Press – 8 hrs ago

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — A key New York Senate leader said he expects the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation's first gun control measure following last month's Connecticut school shooting.

"I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today," Klein told reporters Monday morning. "I'm very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly."

People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.

The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.

A Cuomo administration official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final, said there was no agreement yet.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

The vote also would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" that would dispense with the three days of public review that bills are supposed to have under the state constitution. There was no immediate comment from Cuomo, who made these gun control provisions a keynote of his State of the State address on Wednesday.

The negotiations faced several challenges.

The bill will be the first test of the new coalition in control of the state Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control "has the intensity of the gay marriage issue." In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

"It was always startling to me the vast cultural divide between New York City metropolitan view on gun control and most of the upstate communities," said Balboni, who represented part of Long Island for 10 years and was a Senate leader.

"Gun advocates see these incidents as almost cyclical and that in the wake of a national shooting incident, they have seen repeated calls for control," he said Monday. "They view it as a slippery slope to the banning and confiscation of weapons. Emotions run high and there will be tremendous pressure on all upstate legislators, Republicans and Democrats, to keep their base."

Also a concern is a major gun manufacturer in upstate New York.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve in Webster, N.Y., when two firefighters were slain responding to a fire. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

Republican Assemblyman Marc Butler warned last week that a more restrictive assault weapon ban could cost the factory 300 jobs.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:41 PM   #2
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NY has gone full retard over gun control.

Gov. Cuomo, Mayor Bloomberg, Senator Schumer, and the Dems in the state legislature want to shit all over the 2nd Amendment.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:48 PM   #3
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NY has gone full retard over gun control.

Gov. Cuomo, Mayor Bloomberg, Senator Schumer, and the Dems in the state legislature want to shit all over the 2nd Amendment.
**** em'
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:55 PM   #4
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The best thing I can say about Illinois is that while Chicago comprises a large percentage of the state's population, it's still small enough that the liberal mouthbreathers don't have free reign to piss all over our rights as they do in New York. There are as many or more people living in Chicago's suburbs as there are in Chicago, and mostly the suburbs are conservative. And of course the downstate area is firmly conservative.

Oh, and **** New York. The handful of sane people who live there have my sympathy, but as for the rest, the deserve exactly what they're getting.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:58 PM   #5
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Oh, and **** New York. The handful of sane people who live there have my sympathy, but as for the rest, the deserve exactly what they're getting.
A sane person would have gotten the **** out of there a long time ago.

Sorry Dylan.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:59 PM   #6
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A sane person would have gotten the **** out of there a long time ago.

Sorry Dylan.
One of my best friends recently got the **** out - he had lived there over 20 years.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:00 PM   #7
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The best thing I can say about Illinois is that while Chicago comprises a large percentage of the state's population, it's still small enough that the liberal mouthbreathers don't have free reign to piss all over our rights as they do in New York. There are as many or more people living in Chicago's suburbs as there are in Chicago, and mostly the suburbs are conservative. And of course the downstate area is firmly conservative.

Oh, and **** New York. The handful of sane people who live there have my sympathy, but as for the rest, the deserve exactly what they're getting.
Thanks dude. Pray for me.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:15 PM   #10
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I always hated NY...well, the city anyway. A bunch of tards!
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:46 PM   #11
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Welp looks like maryland is going to be along for the ride too! Again while on the surface this looks 'bad' it's actually good for now. Sad that the reason that both of these politicians are pushing for it is because they believe it will help them for a presidential nomination in 2016. Again the more states that go retard the sooner the Supreme court will issue cert.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...ry?id=18212983
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:00 PM   #12
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A man protected by bodyguards that carry semi-automatic weapons with high-capacity magazines wants to tell you that you yourself are not allowed to carry the same to protect you. Isn't our country lovely?
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I watched the session on local TV this afternoon as the ASSembly passed in favor the NYSAFE act 104-43. Sucks to be me. I'm a criminal now I guess. Won't even be able to buy ammo online without it being shipped to an FFL and BG check. One "scary feature" is all it takes to define an assault rifle......FML. I have to register all my guns and re-up every five years or else my "license" is revoked, thereby making me a criminal. I wanna move out of this Republik.
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I watched the session on local TV this afternoon as the ASSembly passed in favor the NYSAFE act 104-43. Sucks to be me. I'm a criminal now I guess. Won't even be able to buy ammo online without it being shipped to an FFL and BG check. One "scary feature" is all it takes to define an assault rifle......FML. I have to register all my guns and re-up every five years or else my "license" is revoked, thereby making me a criminal. I wanna move out of this Republik.
Meanwhile all those bad firearms are carried by the people who protect the man who signed that law
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Decent read from a former DC prosecutor.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...Tabs%3Darticle
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