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Old 01-16-2013, 01:58 AM  
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If not #1, where?

The draftniks keep saying that Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick.
None of them say he isn't the top QB in the class though.
If we don't take him at #1 how far is he realistically going to fall?

I see no scenario where he falls out of the Top 10.

So if he's the top QB in a weak class...
QB is our biggest need...
And he's gonna go Top 10 anyway...

Why not at #1?

Am I wrong to say he won't fall out of the Top 10?

Discuss...
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:19 AM   #16
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trade the pick for a mid to late 1st round pick, and a couple 2nd/3rd round picks this year and next and a 1st next year ; something like that makes more sense

no QB worth the 1st pick and the team has LOTS of needs
It is far too soon to assume this.

Just wait.

3 months from now, Smith will be the obvious choice.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:25 AM   #17
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trade the pick for a mid to late 1st round pick, and a couple 2nd/3rd round picks this year and next and a 1st next year ; something like that makes more sense

no QB worth the 1st pick and the team has LOTS of needs
What team is going to trade up?

And for who?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:33 AM   #18
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If Smith is worth trading up for, or another player is that exciting, then why are the Chiefs even moving down?

If Reid and Dorsey like Albert, he'll be re-signed before the draft. Then you know Joeckel will not be the pick.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:35 AM   #19
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Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks, Geno is not the answer at #1, the team needs LOTS of players

a no brainer in my mind

more realistic that Andy trades for Kevin Kobb and accumulates draft picks to stock the whole roster and then keeps his eye out for another franchise QB
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:37 AM   #20
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Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks, Geno is not the answer at #1, the team needs LOTS of players

a no brainer in my mind

more realistic that Andy trades for Kevin Kobb and accumulates draft picks to stock the whole roster and then keeps his eye out for another franchise QB
Stupid. BTW Geno Smith is worth the #1 pick & your dumb if you don't think so. Just ****ing dumb.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:39 AM   #21
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Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks, Geno is not the answer at #1, the team needs LOTS of players

a no brainer in my mind

more realistic that Andy trades for Kevin Kobb and accumulates draft picks to stock the whole roster and then keeps his eye out for another franchise QB
Lol, another? Who's the first? We have a front row seat for Andy to "keep his eye out" for a franchise QB.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:41 AM   #22
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Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks, Geno is not the answer at #1, the team needs LOTS of players

a no brainer in my mind

more realistic that Andy trades for Kevin Kobb and accumulates draft picks to stock the whole roster and then keeps his eye out for another franchise QB
How are you trading down if no one is interested in trading up?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:43 AM   #23
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What are most teams willing to trade up for? A QB, plain and simple. So if there's no QB worth the #1 pick, what makes you think we'll have any trading partners?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:46 AM   #24
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What are most teams willing to trade up for? A QB, plain and simple. So if there's no QB worth the #1 pick, what makes you think we'll have any trading partners?
Exactly.

And no one is going to give up picks for a LT.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:47 AM   #25
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Lol, another? Who's the first? We have a front row seat for Andy to "keep his eye out" for a franchise QB.
was it Len Dawson? hehe
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:51 AM   #26
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trade the pick for a mid to late 1st round pick, and a couple 2nd/3rd round picks this year and next and a 1st next year ; something like that makes more sense

no QB worth the 1st pick and the team has LOTS of needs
but who wants the number 1 pick?
to trade somebody has to want the spot
not seeing it
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:53 AM   #27
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might be a package deal that includes players, etc.

if you really think Geno at #1 then so be it but i'd then call you a dope, otherwise the best option is to trade out of #1 and aim for more picks

e.g. how about trading with the 49ers for Alex Smith and a bunch of their picks? you then ride Alex for a year or two while you find and groom "the guy", probably even get a QB with the Niners pick

not saying that's the one but something creative like that, a "Reid like move", check his draft record and you will see many trades like this although to be fair they didn't involve the top pick
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:54 AM   #28
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might be a package deal that includes players, etc.

if you really think Geno at #1 then so be it but i'd then call you a dope, otherwise the best option is to trade out of #1 and aim for more picks

e.g. how about trading with the 49ers for Alex Smith and a bunch of their picks? you then ride Alex for a year or two while you find and groom "the guy", probably even get a QB with the Niners pick

not saying that's the one but something creative like that, a "Reid like move", check his draft record and you will see many trades like this although to be fair they didn't involve the top pick
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:57 AM   #29
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i see how you got all those posts Dave

you guys want a QB so bad that your desperation numbs what little brain power you command, there ain't one out there worth a top pick and the gameday roster is 53 players
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:00 AM   #30
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I said this the other day if you don't take him 1 who the hell are you gonna take?

There's a good chnace 6 QB's go in the 1st.
Identify your #1 team need
Research and Scout your targets
Go get your target. Who cares where hes selected as long as he pans out.


Chiefs should have drafted Flacco over Dorsey or Albert, and i dont even think Flacco is an "all world" talent.
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