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Old 01-16-2013, 08:14 AM  
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Which teams improved with new coach/front office

I think it is abundantly clear to everyone that we are vastly improved.

Did any other teams improve (on paper) through coaching and front office changes? Seems like good established coaches getting fired, but noone really good stepping in to replace them.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:21 AM   #2
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Nope, none of them.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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Nope, none of them.
I agree... been an interesting off-season already, but it seems like there are less available good coaches than normal. Maybe more staying in college and not making the jump to the pros.. not sure.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:34 AM   #4
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Alot of openings, very few good coaches available. Clark looks brilliant now.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:39 AM   #5
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So far I would rank the HC hires as....

1) Chicago
2) Buffalo
3) San Diego
4) Cleveland

The big names aren't being hired or biting on the jobs. We blow everyone out of the water in that department. Kind of surprised Lovie Smith hasn't been hired by anyone?

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Old 01-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #6
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I think it's far too early to draw any conclusions.

I am one of the few that doesn't believe that Andy Reid was a home run.

Mike McCoy, who the Chargers hired, was on my list of favorite candidates, but Tom Telesco would not excite me were I a Charger fan.

Marc Trestman, who was my favorite darkhorse candidate, is on the short list for the Bears, being called back for another interview.

I would be more excited about this offseason with John Dorsey as GM, and either McCoy or Trestman as HC.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:43 AM   #7
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So far I would rank the HC hires as....

1) Chicago
2) Buffalo
3) San Diego

The big names aren't being hired or biting on the jobs. We blow everyone out of the water in that department. Kind of surprised Lovie Smith hasn't been hired by anyone?
The Bears haven't yet hired a coach.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:47 AM   #8
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The Bears haven't yet hired a coach.
I think they did hire him


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Old 01-16-2013, 08:49 AM   #9
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Just over 2 hours ago.

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #10
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I think the Chargers improved also but that's mainly due to anything being an upgrade over Smith and Turner. And let's be honest that's the same case as the Chiefs, though our new coach is more proven. If Telesco was largely involved with that first Colts draft then they are in good hands.

Really like what Emery has done in Chicago. Number 1 priority was fixing Cutler and the offense. Trestman is a bold outside the box hire to do so. He's had successful offenses everywhere he has gone.

Emery is really impressive to me. His season ending press conference was amazing and very thorough. Wish we could have kept him here and undoubtedly would have this team in a better spot if he was the GM instead of Pioli.

Hate what the Browns, Jets and Panthers did. Remains to be seen with the Jags but that's seems like a good GM hire.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:36 AM   #11
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I think it's far too early to draw any conclusions.

I am one of the few that doesn't believe that Andy Reid was a home run.

Mike McCoy, who the Chargers hired, was on my list of favorite candidates, but Tom Telesco would not excite me were I a Charger fan.

Marc Trestman, who was my favorite darkhorse candidate, is on the short list for the Bears, being called back for another interview.

I would be more excited about this offseason with John Dorsey as GM, and either McCoy or Trestman as HC.
I agree but Reid has the name (credibility) and KC needed that part of it as well as a need for a good HC.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:45 AM   #12
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Not getting Dorsey without Andy Reid.

Reid brought him here.

The only way you're getting a Mike McCoy or Marc Trestman is if you have a Scott Pioli all-powerful GM like both Chicago and San Diego have.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:51 AM   #13
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Not getting Dorsey without Andy Reid.

Reid brought him here.

The only way you're getting a Mike McCoy or Marc Trestman is if you have a Scott ***** all-powerful GM like both Chicago and San Diego have.
I understand the relationship between Reid and Dorsey is the primary reason that we were able to lure Dorsey away.

My point, however, is that I didn't really care if we hired the all powerful HC or the all powerful GM.

If we had hired Marc Ross or Tom Gamble along with Mike McCoy or Marc Trestman, I would have been good with that.

At the end of the day, I am just not a fan of Andy Reid's philosophies.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:55 AM   #14
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I understand the relationship between Reid and Dorsey is the primary reason that we were able to lure Dorsey away.

My point, however, is that I didn't really care if we hired the all powerful HC or the all powerful GM.

If we had hired Marc Ross or Tom Gamble along with Mike McCoy or Marc Trestman, I would have been good with that.

At the end of the day, I am just not a fan of Andy Reid's philosophies.
I'm definitely NOT a Mike McCoy fan. At all.

And I'm sick of the "all powerful GM" model. It hasn't gotten us shit.
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At the end of the day, I am just not a fan of Andy Reid's philosophies.
At the end of the day we didn't decide to mimic some other franchise and we won't be trading for their b/u QB.

Our owner finally got the message and hired a HC that values QB as much or more than anyone. He values the passing game. In fact he inflates the value of QB's on his team and then releases them and picks another grape off the vine and does it all over again.

Oh, good GAWD do we need that.

Then he hires Mr. Jarhead to contrast him but at the same time they already have a very good working relationship/friendship.

This isn't clinging on someone else's coat tails or trying to copy some "way" of winning.

THIS is why for the first time in forever I think we have a chance...
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