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Old 01-16-2013, 09:54 AM  
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Thomas Jones to donate brain for study after death

Thomas Jones fears developing CTE
Updated: January 16, 2013, 10:00 AM ET
By Jane McManus | ESPNNewYork.com

Thomas Jones, a retired running back who played for five teams in 12 NFL seasons, has decided to donate his brain upon his death to the Sports Legacy Institute to be studied for evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). Jones said he has no idea how many concussions he sustained, but that he's concerned with what they could mean for his future.

"Honestly, like I couldn't give you a number because you just play with them," Jones said. "You can't know; nobody does. I think the guys counting the concussions were the ones that got knocked out."

The Sports Legacy Institute won't confirm individual donations, but a spokesperson said that more than 600 living athletes have decided to donate their brains to be studied. Of 34 neural tissue samples from NFL players, 33 had evidence of CTE. Jones said he can only guess at what has happened to his brain after 20 years of games and practices -- and numerous "baby concussions" -- through his NFL, college and high school career.

"It's like taking a fresh, ripe apple and tapping it with your thumb over and over again," Jones said.

Jones is in the editing process of a documentary series, "The NFL: The Gift or the Curse?" The first of six planned episodes, produced by Jones' company Independently Major Entertainment Films, deals with concussions and suicide.

He interviewed Ann McKee, co-director of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy at Boston University and co-director Chris Nowinski about the issue. Jones decided to make his donation after conducting interviews for the project.

Last week, Junior Seau's family revealed that his brain showed evidence of CTE when he committed suicide last year. This generation of players is the first to play with concrete evidence that they could be compromising not-too-distant futures by playing professional football.

In the documentary, Jones also interviewed former defensive end Adewale Ogunleye, who was drafted by the Dolphins in 2000. Ogunleye sees ominous signs in what might just be everyday forgetfulness.

"Somebody might tell me their name; I don't remember it right away," Ogunleye said. "Now I kind of laugh it off but when stuff like that happens, I'll be like, 'Damn, I hope these concussions don't come back to haunt us in the end.' And if they do, I just pray someone is there to help me through the tough times that may come."

In the rough cut, Ogunleye then puts his face in his hands. Jones comes over and puts his arm on Ogunleye's shoulder.

These issues are personal for NFL players. Jones uses the example of Dave Duerson's suicide in February of last year.

"His suicide, you see it on TV and it's just news," Jones said. "But to us, it's more than that."

Jones envisions the series as the players speaking directly to the fans about the pitfalls of playing in the NFL. He understands that many people see attaining the dream of playing in the NFL as a dream come true, but wants to show what it looks like through the eyes of the men who reached that goal.

"The fans look at it as money," Jones said, "but once you've bought everything you want, you realize there is more you want out of life."

The series also will focus on issues such as domestic violence and financial pressures. Jones is talking with possible distributors for the project.


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Old 01-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #46
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So if they don't find anything wrong with his brain will that confirm that Baldwin is a big puss?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:10 PM   #48
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Maybe they will be able to locate the 1 yard per carry gene.

Actually, he had an excellent career--but that last year or so was just brutal.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:12 PM   #49
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I love how all these Athletes try and make us feel sorry for them. You signed the million dollar contract to get hit in the head thousands of times, nobody forced you to do it. You could have gone a different route with your free college degree. Shut the **** up and cash your check while the rest of us work 9-5. I don't care about your head problems, not even a little bit.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:14 PM   #50
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I love how all these Athletes try and make us feel sorry for them. You signed the million dollar contract to get hit in the head thousands of times, nobody forced you to do it. You could have gone a different route with your free college degree. Shut the **** up and cash your check while the rest of us work 9-5. I don't care about your head problems, not even a little bit.
So, you're kind of a dick, huh?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #51
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That didn't seem like the point you were making.

My point is, it's depressing because at the end of the day, there is not much more that can be done to make the game safer. It is what it is.

I think that elimination of kickoff returns is coming. Sad, but probably true. I keep hoping that they can redesign helmets or something...
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Where are these athletes trying to make us feel bad for them?
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Great post? Are you ****ing retarded?

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No, he's being sarcastic.



Well, that was his excuse after being called a dumbass numerous times.
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The first of six planned episodes, produced by Jones' company Independently Major Entertainment Films, deals with concussions and suicide.
Apparently he was already suffering from brain damage when he named his production company.
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I think that elimination of kickoff returns is coming. Sad, but probably true. I keep hoping that they can redesign helmets or something...
Posted a link about new helmets on the last page. Seems encouraging.

But man, you get rid of kick returns and it really changes things. As I understand it the proposed idea is the scoring team instead of kicking off gets the ball on their own 20, where it's "4th and 15". SO, they can choose to go for it (like an onside kick) or punt it away. I guess more bad things happen on kick returns than punt returns.

And as far as the beginning of the game, I guess the coin toss winner just gets the ball at the 20 or something...I dunno.

It just feels like if they go to this, it would just suck.
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It just feels like if they go to this, it would just suck.
It would suck for older viewers for a few years, then like any other rule change that's been made over the years, it would fade into oblivion.

Young viewers would never know the difference. Plus, the NFL knows that its audience doesn't live and die by the kickoff.
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I love how all these Athletes try and make us feel sorry for them. You signed the million dollar contract to get hit in the head thousands of times, nobody forced you to do it. You could have gone a different route with your free college degree. Shut the **** up and cash your check while the rest of us work 9-5. I don't care about your head problems, not even a little bit.

I can understand your lack of human compassion.

Besides your career as a big time NFL scout which must have led to your obvious penis envy, it is also very clear you've had way too many concussions yourself...
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One thing that I have heard elsewhere before was the idea of going back to the old time leather helmets and minimal pads. Right now the NFL players use their bodies as weapons because they are wearing suits of armor. Back when they had minimal padding, they had to learn the real fundamentals of the game and how to attack in control so no one got hurt. While I don't think this is THE ANSWER, I do believe there is some merit to this line of thought.
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I can understand your lack of human compassion.

Besides your career as a big time NFL scout which must have led to your obvious penis envy, it is also very clear you've had way too many concussions yourself...
I spent 6 months working with my uncle for a pro team, I've never claimed to be some super scout. I was a piss on intern pretty much. I did it to pass time and try something that I thought I would love, I hated it so much that I decided to go defend your country for 4 years instead. Is that ok with you? You ****ing dumb dick clown douche excuse for a human. Go piss on your balls loser.
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