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Old 01-12-2013, 10:29 AM  
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Frenchies tried to pull a Seal Team Six

1 French boy dead, and 1 possibly captured. and a mission failure. Dear French boys - not everybody can be like the good ole USA.

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(MOGADISHU, Somalia) — A French commando raid in Somalia to free a captive intelligence agent ended in the deaths of 17 Islamists and a French soldier. France said the hostage also died in the failed rescue, but the man’s captors denied he had been killed and claimed Saturday to have seized a second soldier.

Confusion surrounded early reports of the botched rescue of the French agent, known by his code-name Denis Allex. He was captured in the east African country on July 14, 2009, and last seen in a video released in October pleading for the French president to help him.

But it was clear that a dangerous raid the French defense minister said was planned with the utmost of care had gone horribly wrong.

(PHOTOS: Somalia’s Catastrophic Famine)

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Allex was killed by his captors and that one French soldier was missing and one dead, along with 17 Islamists. The Defense Ministry earlier said two commandos were killed in the fighting in the Somali town of Bulomarer.

“It was an extremely dangerous mission,” Le Drian said. “Everything indicates Denis Allex was killed.”

The militant Islamist group al-Shabab, which held Allex for more than three years, said Saturday that he remained alive and in its custody, as was a new captive — a French commando wounded in fighting.

Le Drian said the operation in Somalia was unrelated to the French offensive overnight in Mali to drive back Islamist militants in the west African country. There are seven French hostages in Mali.

Residents of Bulomarer described hearing explosions and gunfire from what they called an al-Shabab base. An al-Shabab official said that fighting began after helicopters dropped off French soldiers.

“Five helicopters attacked a house in the town. They dropped soldiers off on the ground so that they could reach their destination … but fighting has broken out,” he said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

The French attack was swift and loud, residents said.

(VIDEO: How a Drought Became a Famine in Somalia)

“We heard a series of explosions followed by gunfire just seconds after a helicopter flew over the town,” Mohamed Ali, a resident of Bulomarer, told The Associated Press by telephone. “We don’t know exactly what happened, but the place was an al-Shabab base and checkpoint.”

The al-Shabab official said some soldiers were killed, but the group held only one dead French soldier. Later, the Islamist group released a statement saying that Allex “remains safe and far from the location of the battle.” It said there would be a verdict in his case in two days.

Allex was kidnapped from a hotel in Mogadishu, Somalia, on July 14, 2009 with a colleague who later escaped. They were in Somalia to train government forces, which are fighting Islamist militiamen.

In October, French President Francois Hollande pledged to “use all means” to contact “anyone who can help free our hostages.”

In 2009, a Frenchman held hostage by pirates off the Somali coast was killed in the crossfire during a commando rescue on his captive sailboat. The man’s family was rescued.

And in 2011, two French hostages kidnapped in Niger were killed by their captors as French troops closed in for a rescue.

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Old 01-12-2013, 04:41 PM   #31
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Depends...

Basic training cost 16k+-
add cost of specific MOS training,deployment gear, and you end up with 350-500k per Marine, soldier, airmen, sailor

SEALS training continuous for 10+ years does get up to 500k-1million
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #32
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Depends...

Basic training cost 16k+-
add cost of specific MOS training,deployment gear, and you end up with 350-500k per Marine, soldier, airmen, sailor

SEALS training continuous for 10+ years does get up to 500k-1million
Ah. so that must be why it took 10 ****ing years to find OBL.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #33
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Looks like this network just attacked a BP facility in Algeria...Americans being held hostage...

you done goofed, terrorists
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:19 PM   #34
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Sure, in a straight up fight. But the mission was a failure.

Still, much like our failed Iran rescue years ago, at least they tried.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:22 PM   #35
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French Commandos are badasses. They are right there with Seals, Delta Force, and SAS. French people suck but, I gotta give credit where credit is due and those guys are no joke. In missions like that one the failure rate is very high.

Also, we tried to get a guy namd Addid in Somalia once and it went a lot worse. We have no reason to gloat.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:29 PM   #36
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Yeah the USA sure has never had any sort of military operation go wrong in Somalia, nope, never.
No kidding... It's also a whole lot easier to go on a kill mission than a hostage rescue mission.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:52 PM   #37
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The french need to stick to things like making fois gras, wine, and condoms with little rubber thingies on them. They suck at war.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:52 PM   #38
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Hey, I'm amazed that they tried. I too have heard that the French Commandos are pretty friggin' badass. Instead of cheering their failure, I'm at least giving them credit for trying something that was as dangerous as that was. They just went a little lower on the pussy meter.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:04 PM   #39
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17-1 is a pretty good kill/death ratio, ami!
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #40
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"What do you figure, the breakage?"

"Figure we take out the terrorists, lose 20-25 percent of the hostages."

"I can live with that."
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