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Old 09-18-2012, 09:07 AM  
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Geno Smith fans roll call

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:
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GIF #2:
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GIF #3 (My favorite):
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HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:15 PM   #9721
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That's my philosophy. I want them to select Smith (or Wilson). But I don't believe they will. It would be the antithesis of everything they've done for basically the entire existence of the franchise.

I figure I might as well expect the worst. That way I can manage my reaction when they do it. Sucks to have to think that way, but you kind of have to with the Chiefs, and decade after decade of them drafting every position except the most important one. At least this way if I'm surprised it'll be pleasantly. Unless there's another Tyson Jackson on the board.

It'll probably be Joeckel.
the perversity of drafting joeckel is mind destroying...
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #9722
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If Alberts back is bad and they decide to not take him, drafting Joeckel I guess makes sense.


That said, if his back checks out, IMO, you just re sign him and keep developing him. I don't really think he's topped out yet and he's still young.

I'm curious to see what Kiper will do, mock wise, if we re sign Albert and Bowe in free agency.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:22 PM   #9723
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I hear you man and I know where you are coming from but, I think Dorsey defined what BPA means to him pretty well in the interview with Mitch Holthus. I agree that QBs definately get pushed up draft boards and I think Geno will too. Obviously it's the most important position.

It's not that I wouldn't take a QB #1, it's that I don't think Reid and Dorsey will. I don't think they feel the desperation that we do and there are better players than Geno.
The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:09 PM   #9724
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If Alberts back is bad and they decide to not take him, drafting Joeckel I guess makes sense.


That said, if his back checks out, IMO, you just re sign him and keep developing him. I don't really think he's topped out yet and he's still young.

I'm curious to see what Kiper will do, mock wise, if we re sign Albert and Bowe in free agency.
So, drafting Allen and Stephenson last year in the second and third rounds respectively, isn't enough?

Two of the better left tackles in college football drafted high isn't enough?

And they both now have NFL experience at the LT position?

And drafting another LT one year later makes sense?

Shit O...

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The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:10 PM   #9726
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So, drafting Allen and Stephenson last year in the third and second round respectively, isn't enough?

Two of the better left tackles in college football drafted high isn't enough?

And they both now have NFL experience at the LT position?

And drafting another LT one year later makes sense?

Shit O...

I thought better of you.
Man, I'm just trying to wrap my head around all this. I'm all up for Geno, thought it would be a for sure thing by now.

I dunno waht to think.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:12 PM   #9727
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The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.
I think we can agree that BPA is a little more complicated that the best player at any position available.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:17 PM   #9728
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Frankly, I don't see why this is really a discussion. If we want to go based on history and how guys draft, the only time Reid was in a situation like this, he drafted a QB.

So there we go. Done.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:20 PM   #9729
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Frankly, I don't see why this is really a discussion. If we want to go based on history and how guys draft, the only time Reid was in a situation like this, he drafted a QB.

So there we go. Done.
Bingo.

And the guy he drafted didn't have the intangibles that Geno does.

Like this shit needs to be worked and over-worked.

It is a done deal.

Thank the maker(s).
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:21 PM   #9730
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Bingo.

And the guy he drafted didn't have the intangibles that Geno does.

Like this shit needs to be worked and over-worked.

It is a done deal.

Thank the maker(s).
I don't like that Clark is coming out saying what he's saying about QB's at this point.

But I hope you are right.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:23 PM   #9731
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I don't like that Clark is coming out saying what he's saying about QB's at this point.

But I hope you are right.
Like I give a shit what Clark says. The guy hired Peeholi. Endorsed Crennel as head coach. Gave a thumbs up for Daboll to run the worst offense the NFL has seen in 80 years - literally.

Reid and Dorsey have drafted very good QB's when they needed to and when they had them sitting there for the taking.

This shit is a done deal.
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So, drafting Allen and Stephenson last year in the second and third rounds respectively, isn't enough?

Two of the better left tackles in college football drafted high isn't enough?

And they both now have NFL experience at the LT position?

And drafting another LT one year later makes sense?

Shit O...

I thought better of you.
I think he was just trying to justify us somehow taking Joekel. I know OCity wants Geno.
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I don't think we'll take him at #1. We might trade back and take him but, I think it's going to be a linemen if we stay at #1. Dorsey was very adament about taking the best player available no matter the position and Geno just isn't the best player in this class. I like him but, there are several better players. I think it would have been more likely for ***** to take him than Dorsey. The new regime isn't backed into a corner and both Dorsey and Reid have talked about a 3 year time table.
Are you sure he said those actual words, and not just BPA no matter what? There is a big difference between BPA and BPA no matter the positions. I also disagree that ***** would be more likely to pick Geno.

Also, as far as the timetable goes, that time doesn't start until you get an actual QB. You don't build the team and then drop the QB in. At least, that's a difficult way to do it. They aren't going to just wait around on that position. Dorsey also was very honest about a good team needing a very good QB.

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Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.
Do you think they are just feeding us lines, or just not explaining that BPA allows, even demands, need as a factor?
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Are you sure he said those actual words, and not just BPA no matter what? There is a big difference between BPA and BPA no matter the positions. I also disagree that ***** would be more likely to pick Geno.

Also, as far as the timetable goes, that time doesn't start until you get an actual QB. You don't build the team and then drop the QB in. At least, that's a difficult way to do it. They aren't going to just wait around on that position. Dorsey also was very honest about a good team needing a very good QB.



Do you think they are just feeding us lines, or just not explaining that BPA allows, even demands, need as a factor?

Both.

I don't think this is meant to be as a slight to fans but more as a smokescreen.
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The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.
I'd buy the luck opinion if they weren't so consistent. Year in and year out they continue to add good players. Besides adding guys like Rodgers and Matthews look at what they've done after the 1st round

2011:Randall Cobb 2nd/64th 2010: Mike Neal 2nd/56th, Morgan Burnett 3rd/71, Andrew Quarless 5th/154th, Marshall Newhouse 5th/169th, James Starks 6th/193rd C.J. Wilson 7th/230 2009: T.J. Lang 4th/109th, Jarius Wynn 6th/182nd 2008: Jorday Nelson 2nd/36th, Patrick Lee 2nd/60th, Jermichael Finley 3rd/91st, Josh Sitton 4th/135 2007: Desmond Biship 6th/193rd James Jones 3rd/78th Mason Crosby 6th/194th 2006: Greg Jennings 2nd/52nd.

Lots of good picks in that group especially the WR corps
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