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Old 01-05-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Newtown shooting theory-the government did it.

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.


Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST


A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:29 AM   #271
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:24 PM   #272
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Dude you or I or anyone on this board could very well just walk into a mall or school or something with a semi-auto rifle and just start firing off rounds and kill a bunch of people. The reason why we don't is because it's wrong and sickening to do something like that. We have morals. It takes a monster, or some drugged up raging lunatic under some kind of pshycotropic drugs to carry out something horrible like this. Look at the Batman shooter in court. He's completely drugged out of his mind and you can tell he has no ****ing clue as to what's going on.

I love a good conspiracy, but come the **** on.

I've done every drug known to man since 1500 AD and none of them made me want to shoot a bunch of kids.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:27 PM   #273
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How can you conspiratards even work the internet? You realize that if you really soak up Alex Jones - it means you have a paranoid personality and a neurosis that borders on mental illness right? I just thought someone should tell you at some point. Alex Jones is a false prophet and you are the starry-eyed Manson Family.

My buddy always thought the feds were after him. Incredibly smart guy - but paranoid as hell. Couldn't make the simplest logical leap that it really wouldn't be worth 1000s of man hours and countless dollars to tail his occasional dimebag-dealing ass around for years. I mean a 2nd grader could figure that out. But he couldn't because his brain wouldn't let him.

You need pure evil people to pull of something like that. Most people in power aren't that evil. They like to go home and think of themselves as a decent person when they tuck their kids in at night. There is absolutely nothing to gain that would be even one millionth as valuable as the risk and horror of mass-murdering kindergartners is bad.

It's an offense to human beings to even entertain the idea. Have you ever had a boss? If so do you think your boss is evil? At what level of hierarchy does the pure evil kick in? Do only pure evil rule the world or do they become pure evil somewhere around Cabinet-level? You have to believe people in power are some other kind of human made of completely different stuff. It doesn't work like that. There are no lizard people. Seek help.
While I'm not saying they did THIS, the elite who run the world are absolutely pure evil. Without Question.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:32 PM   #274
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Did you ever fry ants with a magnifying glass when you were a kid, just to do it? If so, did that, in your mind, make you "evil"? Or were they just ants, so who cares?

We are ants to these people. Our lives don't matter to them, except once every four years when we're voting or on the odd occasion where a select few of us are useful for agenda-pushing. They send us off to die in foreign deserts and jungles without a second thought while they're kicking back at the country club, bus our kids to schools in a ghetto while theirs go to private academies, tax us to death while they hide their millions in trusts. They are the elite. We're pieces on a Risk board to them. There is no good and evil - there is only what they do to maintain and expand their power and influence.

The one thing I'm convinced of at this point is that our government no longer cares about the best interests of the common citizen. They lie to us, con us, cheat us, and don't lose a minute's sleep over it.
It's not that they no longer do, it's that they never have.
The world's elite, have been murdering people by the millions, and doing unthinkable stomach turning shit to the masses for thousands of years.
Most of them are from the same original bloodlines, and have had the thinking passed down from generation to generation.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:27 AM   #275
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:21 AM   #276
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I love a good conspiracy, but come the **** on.

I've done every drug known to man since 1500 AD and none of them made me want to shoot a bunch of kids.
A lot of these SSRI drugs say that side effects can be thoughts of suicide, killing and other possible violent acts. Some people it has zero effect, some it can trigger something in a human to cause him/her to act crazy and violent. Many of these mind control programs (ie: MK Ultra) are designed to find out what make people flip out.

Just look at the guy's father's background...how he worked for a company funded by DARPA that was involved w/ mind control, creating super-soldiers and how his head shrink worked for the dept of defense. Dude it's just a bunch of weird shit that went on to think that just him alone that went into a theatre w/ a conscience mind and shot a bunch of innocent people.
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I love a good conspiracy, but come the **** on.

I've done every drug known to man since 1500 AD and none of them made me want to shoot a bunch of kids.
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A lot of these SSRI drugs say that side effects can be thoughts of suicide, killing and other possible violent acts. Some people it has zero effect, some it can trigger something in a human to cause him/her to act crazy and violent. Many of these mind control programs (ie: MK Ultra) are designed to find out what make people flip out.

Just look at the guy's father's background...how he worked for a company funded by DARPA that was involved w/ mind control, creating super-soldiers and how his head shrink worked for the dept of defense. Dude it's just a bunch of weird shit that went on to think that just him alone that went into a theatre w/ a conscience mind and shot a bunch of innocent people.
You're a ****ing fruit cake, dude...
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translation......I'm a dumbass sheeple...it doesn't effect me - I will just look away, nothing to see here.
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translation......I'm a dumbass sheeple...it doesn't effect me - I will just look away, nothing to see here.
You can attempt to translate it however your abnormal brain sees fit. But it still doesn't change the fact that you're a loony idiot who lives paranoid and afraid of things that will never transpire...
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:57 AM   #281
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You can attempt to translate it however your abnormal brain sees fit. But it still doesn't change the fact that you're a loony idiot who lives paranoid and afraid of things that will never transpire...
I'm not scared or paranoid.

But this country is going down the shitter right before our very own eyes, people like you and other dems/repubs stay true to their parties thinking that one or the other is going to make any difference.

Both parties are bought out and paid for/hijacked by the military industrial complex and big banks, who've bankrupted the USA by design just like they have to many countries in Europe.

Most dumb downed Americans treat this 2-party system as a baseball game..they think they're part of a winning team when their candidate wins...which in reality the new boss is the same as the old boss.
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I'm not scared or paranoid.

But this country is going down the shitter right before our very own eyes, people like you and other dems/repubs stay true to their parties thinking that one or the other is going to make any difference.

Both parties are bought out and paid for/hijacked by the military industrial complex and big banks, who've bankrupted the USA by design just like they have to many countries in Europe.

Most dumb downed Americans treat this 2-party system as a baseball game..they think they're part of a winning team when their candidate wins...which in reality the new boss is the same as the old boss.
calling out the corruption which is going to tank this country and really **** over 90% of it's citizens makes you a crazy person. People just don't want to deal with any sort of truth. They don't want to believe that our government isn't working for our interests anymore, but only their own and the elite. So they just label it as crazy so that they can live obliviously.
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that theory is as crazy as the 9/11 theory

the number of morons who beleive this kind of crap seem to multiply rather rapidly
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I'm not scared or paranoid.

But this country is going down the shitter right before our very own eyes, people like you and other dems/repubs stay true to their parties thinking that one or the other is going to make any difference.

Both parties are bought out and paid for/hijacked by the military industrial complex and big banks, who've bankrupted the USA by design just like they have to many countries in Europe.

Most dumb downed Americans treat this 2-party system as a baseball game..they think they're part of a winning team when their candidate wins...which in reality the new boss is the same as the old boss.
I like how you say "I'm not scared or paranoid", and then list all kinds of scared and paranoid ideas that you think are destroying the world.

I don't consider myself a D or R, so quite trying to place everyone that disagrees with your idiot theories into the same box.

The world certainly has issues, and big banks are indeed harmful in many ways. But it's not because of a grand conspiracy to bankrupt the world and bring about civil unrest. It's simple plain ol' greed. What you're ignoring in your kooky theories is that the same organizations you're blaming for killing its own civilians and intentionally destroying the economy also rely on that economy and those civilians to give it its power. If they destroy what you claim they're trying to, they would be significantly reducing their own power and authority. Without a working and cooperative economy under it, these nefarious evil organizations would have no power.

You're right about the government being corrupt. Not many deny that. But you're completely wrong to think that killing its own civilians or intentionally destroying the economy would actually provide any benefit to the people in control.
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...this country is going down the shitter right before our very own eyes...hijacked by the military industrial complex and big banks, who've bankrupted the USA by design


And you didn't even get into how the govt plans and executes mass murders such as 9/11, the Aurora movie theater and Sandy Hook. I honestly don't know how you even summon the courage to get out of bed in the morning. Although, maybe you don't.
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