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Old 01-16-2013, 01:26 PM  
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Obama’s 23 Planned Executive Actions On Guns

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Obama’s 23 Planned Executive Actions On Guns
David Taintor
11:58 AM EST, Wednesday January 16, 2013

Here is a list provided by the White House of the 23 executive actions President Obama plans to take to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., massacre:
  1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
  2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
  3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
  4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
  5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
  6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
  7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
  8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
  9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
  10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
  11. Nominate an ATF director.
  12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
  13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
  14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
  15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
  16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
  17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
  18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
  19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
  20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
  21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
  22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
  23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:13 PM   #181
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:14 PM   #182
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ya, uh huh.

hypocrit.
How am I being a hypocrite?

Was he mentally ill or something?

You do realize that was a fictional movie and not a documentary, right?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:17 PM   #183
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Actually if you look at the law in NY, if you have a magazine that holds more than 7 rounds you have 1 year to sell them out of state.
Someone lemme know when that happens throughout the US. You'll have to hire a psychic medium though, because I will have been dead for decades.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:19 PM   #184
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How am I being a hypocrite?
you go rambo,, feign that "rides a horse" ignorance.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:20 PM   #185
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What exactly does mentally unstable mean?
A pattern of behavior and/or cognitive processes that causes significant impairment in functioning and distress in daily life.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:24 PM   #186
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you go rambo,, feign that "rides a horse" ignorance.
Enlighten me. What am I being hypocritical about?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:24 PM   #187
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A pattern of behavior and/or cognitive processes that causes significant impairment in functioning and distress in daily life.
You just defined most OCD people. I know one and would still expect they could own a gun to protect themselves.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #188
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Someone lemme know when that happens throughout the US. You'll have to hire a psychic medium though, because I will have been dead for decades.
That doesn't change the point of the picture. If Obama had his way it would happen yesterday
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:31 PM   #189
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That doesn't change the point of the picture. If Obama had his way it would happen yesterday
Says you.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:34 PM   #190
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You just defined most OCD people. I know one and would still expect they could own a gun to protect themselves.
Well they would be considered "mentally unstable" no? (I don't like that term because of the negative connotation it carries) That is just a broad definition that is part of all mental disorders. There are too many exclusion criteria to name so just meeting that doesn't automatically mean a diagnosis.

And there is not a single diagnostic criteria for OCD that specifically involves hurting themselves or others. It would/should not be applicable to them as a population. Instead on a case by case basis as some individuals can have symptoms that are of a more dangerous nature.
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Ever heard of Missouri's Civil Involuntary Detention law?

http://dmh.mo.gov/mentalillness/help...vil.htm#person

I love this last bit:

Does a person have to be homicidal or suicidal before he or she is able to be civilly detained?

No. Verbal threats to do harm are sufficient, or even placing a person in fear of harm is sufficient. The standard is "a likelihood of serious physical harm to self or others." Past patterns of behavior that have historically have resulted in harm may also be considered.


So basically, anybody can call the police and say a you threatened them, or scared them, and the police can use this as an excuse to detain you, without evidence or due process, for 96 hours of "observation."

Yeah, no chance this could be abused......
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:12 PM   #192
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Ever heard of Missouri's Civil Involuntary Detention law?

http://dmh.mo.gov/mentalillness/help...vil.htm#person

I love this last bit:

Does a person have to be homicidal or suicidal before he or she is able to be civilly detained?

No. Verbal threats to do harm are sufficient, or even placing a person in fear of harm is sufficient. The standard is "a likelihood of serious physical harm to self or others." Past patterns of behavior that have historically have resulted in harm may also be considered.


So basically, anybody can call the police and say a you threatened them, or scared them, and the police can use this as an excuse to detain you, without evidence or due process, for 96 hours of "observation."

Yeah, no chance this could be abused......
So because a few people might potentially abuse something, we shouldn't allow this? That sounds familiar...
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:49 PM   #193
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So because a few people might potentially abuse something, we shouldn't allow this? That sounds familiar...
It's just an example of some of the bullshit already in place that makes the idea of expanding headshrinkers' roles in gun control all that more frightening.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:49 AM   #194
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:53 AM   #195
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Did you put the little rolleyes guy at him, or because you realize how silly your response is here?
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