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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:29 PM   #361
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David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.
I will take the 12th best prospect at #1 if its a QB, if I hit my pick is better than the #1 prospect even if that guy becomes the best ever at his position.

The NFL is a QB driven league. Better to swing big and miss than to puss out and take a called strike 29.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:29 PM   #362
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Here is one thing about Andy Reid. He is going to take the player he wants, regardless of how much the fan base wants the other.

In KC, you could have billboards for Geno Smith. You could have Geno Smith fan clubs parading around Andy Reid's office with signs 24/7. You could have local sports radio shows conjure up Geno Smith rally songs. You could have every local beat writer put out articles about how Geno Smith is the right choice. But come draft night, if Andy Reid falls in love with another player, he's taking him. Period. For better or for worse.

There were so many times where every fan and member of the local media in Philly thought the Eagles draft pick was going to for sure end up being player x, y, or z, but on draft night Reid will come out and surprise everyone with a player that no one expected.

So, what does that mean for your draft? Root for whatever player you want, but just make sure you are mentally prepared for the totally unexpected just in case. Reid is always good for one major curveball on draft day.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:42 PM   #363
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Who was Reid's first pick in Philly? At #2 overall?

Dipshit.
You have great reading/comprehension skills.

Dipshit.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:52 AM   #364
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet, but this article smells of a trade down attempt. Is there a team in the top 10 of the draft in dire need of a LT?
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:54 AM   #365
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I will take the 12th best prospect at #1 if its a QB, if I hit my pick is better than the #1 prospect even if that guy becomes the best ever at his position.
And thank God you are not the GM.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:03 PM   #366
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David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.
If you have Geno rated as #12 then there is no reason not to take him at #1 overall.

You would be good taking him at #7 if he graded out as the 12th best but the team that took him at #6 would be a desperate fool?
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:04 PM   #367
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And thank God you are not the GM.
apparently, the same could be said about you.

Have fun with Brady Quinn.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:06 PM   #368
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David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.
Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:09 PM   #369
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**** Luke Joeckl remember when everyone had us drafting Russell Okung and Bray Bualaga
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:11 PM   #370
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Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.
Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:12 PM   #371
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Here is one thing about Andy Reid. He is going to take the player he wants, regardless of how much the fan base wants the other.

In KC, you could have billboards for Geno Smith. You could have Geno Smith fan clubs parading around Andy Reid's office with signs 24/7. You could have local sports radio shows conjure up Geno Smith rally songs. You could have every local beat writer put out articles about how Geno Smith is the right choice. But come draft night, if Andy Reid falls in love with another player, he's taking him. Period. For better or for worse.

There were so many times where every fan and member of the local media in Philly thought the Eagles draft pick was going to for sure end up being player x, y, or z, but on draft night Reid will come out and surprise everyone with a player that no one expected.

So, what does that mean for your draft? Root for whatever player you want, but just make sure you are mentally prepared for the totally unexpected just in case. Reid is always good for one major curveball on draft day.
This is the truth and the truth sometimes hurts. Really good post.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:18 PM   #372
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Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

If he is the top rated QB and rated 12th overall then, yes screw the damn rankings. I don't get how it is a reach if the top QB is rated in the top 15 overall(by frankie mind you) and you take him at #1.

Would you call Big Ben a reach at #2 instead of drafting him at #11. I bet the Raiders wish they had taken a QB at #2 in that draft instead of a LT.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:24 PM   #373
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How many times do we have to pass on a QB, draft some other slap dick, then watch that QB go on to be succesful before the fans say "you know what, why don't we ever take a chance"?


For as shitty of QB situations as we've sat thru, we are pretty ****ing picky about who we wanna draft.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #374
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How many times do we have to pass on a QB, draft some other slap dick, then watch that QB go on to be succesful before the fans say "you know what, why don't we ever take a chance"?


For as shitty of QB situations as we've sat thru, we are pretty ****ing picky about who we wanna draft.
And it's a good thing we're so damn picky! I mean just look at how awesome the Chiefs have been!
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You make that pick you flush 1/4th of season tickets down the drain.

1/2 the fanbase leaves immediately...
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