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Old 01-18-2013, 12:49 PM  
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@nfldraftscout (Matt Miller) will be on 610 from 1-2

Matt is from Bleacher Report and is one of the guys that has Geno going first to KC. Should be a good listen
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:51 PM   #46
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Geno has better tools but, mentally, he is not where Ryan was. Ryan is and has always been great under pressure in big games. He brought his team back so much he earned the name "Matty Ice." Geno and Bradford haven't shown that yet and that is a big deal. Tons of these NFL games come down to the wire.

Make no mistake, if we pass on a QB at #1, it is for a damn good reason and more than likely, Oakland and Jacksonville will pass too.


You're a ****ing moron.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:51 PM   #47
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Yep, damn good reason all those teams passed on Big Ben, or Rodgers, or Brady etc. They always know what they are doing.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:51 PM   #48
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I don't think QBs slip anymore. Not after what Russel Wilson just did. If a QB is even close to being able to throw the ball, they will go round 1.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:54 PM   #49
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People wanna play the sit and wait game in round 2 to see which QB falls to us there or which is still available.

We have the first overall pick. Sitting around waiting isn't what needs to happen.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:56 PM   #50
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imagine the ****ing tears if we were looking at a QB from Delaware this year, whose biggest win was against Delaware State...


jesus, the "he's not good enough, wait till next year" crowd would lose their worthless shit....
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:57 PM   #51
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You're a ****ing moron.
Almost every rookie loses his first playoff game. He looked bad in his second game.

In five years Ryan has 16 fourth quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...layer=RyanMa00

In comparison, Rodgers has 5 fourth quarter comebacks and 9 game winning drives in eight years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...layer=RodgAa00

When he won the Superbowl, that team never trailed a game once in the 4th quarter. It's not a coincidence.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #52
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Almost every rookie loses his first playoff game. He looked bad in his second game.

In five years Ryan has 16 fourth quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...layer=RyanMa00

In comparison, Rodgers has 5 fourth quarter comebacks and 9 game winning drives in eight years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...layer=RodgAa00

When he won the Superbowl, that team never trailed a game once in the 4th quarter. It's not a coincidence.
Yeah, because he carried the 32 ranked defense in the league to a SB win.

The reason Rodgers teams were never behind? Cause he ****ing outscored everyone, he didn't have to come back.


And if 5 years, Matt Ryan has how many playoff victories?
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #53
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imagine the ****ing tears if we were looking at a QB from Delaware this year, whose biggest win was against Delaware State...


jesus, the "he's not good enough, wait till next year" crowd would lose their worthless shit....
God damn some of you guys don't ****ing read. I was talking about a guy like Joe Flacco who can develop over time and win some big games. A guy with a skill set who has the tools and turns into a good QB. He doesn't have to be great. He just has to be like Joe.

It has nothing to do with Delaware. Jump to conclusions much?

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Old 01-18-2013, 02:01 PM   #54
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Geno has better tools but, mentally, he is not where Ryan was. Ryan is and has always been great under pressure in big games. He brought his team back so much he earned the name "Matty Ice." Geno and Bradford haven't shown that yet and that is a big deal. Tons of these NFL games come down to the wire. That is one of the first things coaches look at when checking out QBs imo.


I agree about Kiper. At least 2-3 will go in the first.

Make no mistake, if we pass on a QB at #1, it is for a damn good reason and more than likely, Oakland, Jacksonville, and the others will pass too.
I think the "great under pressure" credibility Ryan might have had built up at one time ( which is questionable in the first place - do a few comebacks against non-powers in the ACC really warrant it) have certainly dried up as his NFL career has gone along.

Geno Smith's performance against Oklahoma, which should have won the game if his defense was even 1/4 competent, was better - and against a better team - than any Matt Ryan led comeback his last year in college.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:02 PM   #55
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So you want a guy like Joe Flacco, prospect wise, yet you don't want any of these guys at 1? Do you remember what Flacco was as a prospect?
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:03 PM   #56
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Yeah, because he carried the 32 ranked defense in the league to a SB win.

The reason Rodgers teams were never behind? Cause he ****ing outscored everyone, he didn't have to come back.
The Packers defense was ranked 5th when they won the Superbowl. Go back and look at the record that year. He choked almost every time they were behind in the 4th quarter. What happened when KC beat them at Arrowhead? They trailed going into the fourth quarter. It happened again in the playoffs. What happened in the playoff game this year?

The fact is that he doesn't lead them back very often. This is a dumb conversation. Let's get back on point.
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I think the "great under pressure" credibility Ryan might have had built up at one time ( which is questionable in the first place - do a few comebacks against non-powers in the ACC really warrant it) have certainly dried up as his NFL career has gone along.

Geno Smith's performance against Oklahoma, which should have won the game if his defense was even 1/4 competent, was better - and against a better team - than any Matt Ryan led comeback his last year in college.
Did you watch the game last week?

Those 16 fourth quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives are NFL stats. Not ACC stats.
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Did you watch the game last week?
Did you watch ANY of his other playoff games? or do those not count?
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Did you watch ANY of his other playoff games? or do those not count?
The one where Flacco lead the Ravens back in the 4th? It's important man and it seems to come down to the end 50% of the time. We need a guy who can carry the team when the game is on the line. We need a guy who can make the play when it must be made. For me, that is the difference between Wilson and Geno. Wilson has done it much more often that Geno.
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The one where Flacco lead the Ravens back in the 4th? It's important man and it seems to come down to the end 50% of the time.
Matt Ryan's other performances you ****ing dip shit. You know, the ones where he scored a whopping 2 points against the Giants?
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