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Old 01-18-2013, 12:49 PM  
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@nfldraftscout (Matt Miller) will be on 610 from 1-2

Matt is from Bleacher Report and is one of the guys that has Geno going first to KC. Should be a good listen
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #106
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The Nassib thoughts are picking up steam lately. That kid is either going to be a monster or a total bust. No in between with him.
I really like the guy.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:56 PM   #107
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I am not going to go one way or another until the combine is done.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:13 PM   #108
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I really like the guy.
I've never seen him.

Why do other people here continually say "He sucks"?

I realize that numbers do not tell the entire story but his numbers were nice and he has ideal size.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:14 PM   #109
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I am not going to go one way or another until the combine is done.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:18 PM   #110
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I've never seen him.

Why do other people here continually say "He sucks"?

I realize that numbers do not tell the entire story but his numbers were nice and he has ideal size.
No idea.

I really love his release and movement within the pocket. Slides/shrugs really well. Not as good as Geno but 2nd best in the draft IMO.







Here's a small sample. Needs more touch/accuracy on deeper throws but does have a few nice ones. Not nearly as consistent on the deep ball as Geno
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:20 PM   #111
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I've never seen him.

Why do other people here continually say "He sucks"?

I realize that numbers do not tell the entire story but his numbers were nice and he has ideal size.
Makes poor decisions at times (who doesn't, in fairness?). Inconsistent mechanics and accuracy.

Wouldn't touch this kid higher than the 3rd round. Looks like a true developmental project with nice upside.

Need and lack of risk associated with drafting QBs will artificially inflate his stock.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:25 PM   #112
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I am not going to go one way or another until the combine is done.
What could possibly happen at the combine, that is told to the media, that would make an ounce of difference? It's almost guaranteed that the top guys aren't gonna throw (top guys never do) and it's not like Genos 40 time matters AT ALL for him as a prospect.

For quarterbacks, the important part of the combine is the interviews and the content of those interviews are kept under lock and key.

I expect Geno to run a 4.7 40, but if he runs a 4.9 or even a 5flat, it wouldn't effect my opinion of him very much because I already know that he values his abilities as a passer far more than his ability to move the chains as a runner. That alone should allow him to have a sustained career that is very productive.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:31 PM   #113
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Makes poor decisions at times (who doesn't, in fairness?). Inconsistent mechanics and accuracy.

Wouldn't touch this kid higher than the 3rd round. Looks like a true developmental project with nice upside.

Need and lack of risk associated with drafting QBs will artificially inflate his stock.
This. He isn't someone you can put in there from day one as the starter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:34 PM   #114
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I'll echo what a lot of you have said here. If any QB is worth taking in the top 15, why not take him at #1? I think we're all pretty much in agreement that the biggest need on this Chiefs team is a QB. True, there isn't a Luck or RG3 this year, but how many drats have such players? Not many, so man up and take the best QB available and move on. Not rocket science, folks.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #115
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What could possibly happen at the combine, that is told to the media, that would make an ounce of difference? It's almost guaranteed that the top guys aren't gonna throw (top guys never do)
If Smith refused to throw, his draft stock will plummet. He's already refused the Senior Bowl and regardless of what Chiefsplanet thinks of him, at this point in time, there are questions about him.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #116
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This. He isn't someone you can put in there from day one as the starter.
So? Either was Eli Manning or Philip Rivers. Or Aaron Rodgers for that matter.

That shouldn't be the criteria, IMO. Even McNabb didn't start his rookie season.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:42 PM   #117
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Makes poor decisions at times (who doesn't, in fairness?). Inconsistent mechanics and accuracy.

Wouldn't touch this kid higher than the 3rd round. Looks like a true developmental project with nice upside.

Need and lack of risk associated with drafting QBs will artificially inflate his stock.
Interesting. So potentially, he is a starting NFL QB, but it's unlikely he'll be ready come September to lead a team?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:48 PM   #118
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So why wouldn't you just take him at #1? I still can't believe there's a single player in this draft who is appreciably better than Geno Smith.
Because you would be passing up other players that could have a big impact on the team as well. The A&M tackle would look great on our line at one and then if could get Smith later you would have two excellent prospects. You will not get a talent like Luke J at pick 34 but you could find a QB nearly as good as Smith in many people's opinion.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:00 PM   #119
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Because you would be passing up other players that could have a big impact on the team as well. The A&M tackle would look great on our line at one and then if could get Smith later you would have two excellent prospects. You will not get a talent like Luke J at pick 34 but you could find a QB nearly as good as Smith in many people's opinion.

You think that an ot would have a bigger impact then a QB. You have got to be kidding me. Branden Albert gave up one damn sack last year. Why the **** would we waste that pick on his replacement. Also no ****ing way you are getting a QB as good as Geno with out second pick, Zero.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:17 PM   #120
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So? Either was Eli Manning or Philip Rivers. Or Aaron Rodgers for that matter.

That shouldn't be the criteria, IMO. Even McNabb didn't start his rookie season.
Three legit first-rounders. And we just had this exchange relative to Gabbert, who was also a legit first-rounder who also had no business starting year one, week one.

I'd be happy to try to take this kid off Jacksonville's hands for a fourth. He's a good bet for a reclamation project.

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Interesting. So potentially, he is a starting NFL QB, but it's unlikely he'll be ready come September to lead a team?
Potentially, sure. There's natural talent there, but I think he's incredibly raw. He sits all of year one.

And as you're well aware, the odds of "hitting" with a QB taken in the third or later aren't real great, but it doesn't mean that it cannot happen, obviously.
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