Do you favor universal background checks?

[BigRedChief]

Ninety-two percent of Americans favor background checks for all potential gun buyers, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll.

Universal background checks are one of the proposals that President Obama has called on Congress to pass as part of his proposal to combat gun violence in the wake of the massacre in a Newtown, Conn., elementary school in December.

Licensed gun dealers already must run background checks, but unlicensed dealers and private sellers, many of whom sell guns at gun shows or over the internet, are not required to do so.

Support for universal background checks went across party lines:
89 percent of Republicans
93 percent of Democrats and Independents were in favor
93 percent of gun households
85 percent of those living in a household with a member of the National Rifle Association

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_16...ground-checks/

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by scott free

There should've been these checks a long time ago, anytime you buy something like that you should have to get checked... its not complicated and if you have nothing to hide you shouldnt be concerned.

I'm 100% for any law abiding american being able to own anything on the market, but this is just common sense 101 stuff.

No, criminals dont need it because much of their stock comes off the street... but the "criminals wont use it" angle is a big fat strawman, it has nothing to do with it.

That.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Fish

I wouldn't necessarily argue it. And it obviously has support according to the percentages you posted. But I can foresee one small problem.

It will be supported by 0 percent of criminals.

Which is the one key demographic we're trying to influence. Support isn't the problem. Enforcement is...

Enforcement is always a problem with anything. There's no law where someone couldn't say, "Well, the criminals aren't going to follow it." Doesn't mean we don't have laws. Although that idea sounds appealing to the fringe, it is not a reasonable stance for people who want to live in a civilized society.

[RedNeckRaider]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

I voted maybe. I don't want to have the hassle between family members and I believe there needs to be a system in place that allows a person who is wrongly placed on "the List" to be able to be removed from "the List"

I also believe that checks should be instantaneous. I prefer they would do away with waiting periods for those who are already firearm owners, Its pointless.

Most all of what is being offered now is pointless. It helps gutless sheep feel better about themselves and the shitbags they think care about them gain power. I was talking to a guy I buy ammunition from and he told me about buying a gun in California. He said he had to wait 21 days or some crazy shit and had to pay a storage fee until he was able to pick up the gun. I have no idea if it is true, but his point was the same as yours. He had a gun safe full of guns but had to go through a cooling off period to get his gun

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

The only reason this gets any blow back is because reasonable people understand the government is not to be trusted. I think it is a very good idea to make sure those buying guns are responsible. It goes back to the fact that the vast majority of those with bad intentions will ignore whatever laws are passed. This is a method to develop a data base that later will be used to enforce whatever laws these out of control assholes in charge pass in the future. Anyone who supports this president is a perfect example of how easily people can be fooled. So yes it is a good idea but it is born from bad intentions IMO~

Sounds like you are suggesting just having no laws since any law and enforcement of it could be abused. The founding fathers had laws. Until there's no mre bad people, laws are going to be part of living in a society.

[RedNeckRaider]

Originally Posted by scott free

There should've been these checks a long time ago, anytime you buy something like that you should have to get checked... its not complicated and if you have nothing to hide you shouldnt be concerned.

I'm 100% for any law abiding american being able to own anything on the market, but this is just common sense 101 stuff.

No, criminals dont need it because much of their stock comes off the street... but the "criminals wont use it" angle is a big fat strawman, it has nothing to do with it.

check gun related crimes by previously law abiding gun owners and get back to me~

[FD]

Yes, except for transferring within family, and steps are taken to make sure the process is fast and not too onerous for individuals making sales. If this passes the House I feel like there will be effort made for the second part to be true.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

In theory, yes. But we already have that stuff -- everything you think your beloved military owns belongs to each of us. America owns it's weapons.

The twist you are making is that tracking legally obtained arms makes our people safer than not tracking them, which is a lie.

Look big fella, you don't like my acid tongue, but you are in way over your head here. Take the next several months looking into DOJ efficiency. Then, maybe you will understand gun control is not effective and our DOJ is even worse -- it's part of the problem.

Do I know you? Have we interacted under one of your previous names? If not you must be confusing me with someone else.

I've been an advocate of the 2nd amendment my whole life. I'm not in favor of banning assault weapons, limiting magazines/clips. So take your misplaced aggression somewhere else.

[nstygma]

would this have helped prevent any of the recent tragedies?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

check gun related crimes by previously law abiding gun owners and get back to me~

So whats your plan, do nothing? sure, previously law abiding people sometimes go off the rails, but i bet its at a far lower rate than people with shady histories due to crime or mental illness.

Whats YOUR idea

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

Most all of what is being offered now is pointless. It helps gutless sheep feel better about themselves and the shitbags they think care about them gain power. I was talking to a guy I buy ammunition from and he told me about buying a gun in California. He said he had to wait 21 days or some crazy shit and had to pay a storage fee until he was able to pick up the gun. I have no idea if it is true, but his point was the same as yours. He had a gun safe full of guns but had to go through a cooling off period to get his gun

Yeah not sure why the dude had to wait 21 days. Was it a private sale through an FFL? If so he should find another FFL. Californa has a 10 day waiting period and I have never heard of a licenced dealer pulling something like that.

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by nstygma

would this have helped prevent any of the recent tragedies?

Nope!

[RedNeckRaider]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Sounds like you are suggesting just having no laws since any law and enforcement of it could be abused. The founding fathers had laws. Until there's no mre bad people, laws are going to be part of living in a society.

If we did not have a government that gives us good reason to not trust them this would be a different conversation. To your point until there are no more bad people I want the right to keep every gun I have. We have all the gun restrictions we need. I like millions of gun owners have done nothing to justify giving any of our magazines or guns up~

[RedNeckRaider]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Yeah not sure why the dude had to wait 21 days. Was it a private sale through an FFL? If so he should find another FFL. Californa has a 10 day waiting period and I have never heard of a licenced dealer pulling something like that.

As I said he could have been spinning a yarn~

[RedNeckRaider]

Originally Posted by scott free

So whats your plan, do nothing? sure, previously law abiding people sometimes go off the rails, but i bet its at a far lower rate than people with shady histories due to crime or mental illness.

Whats YOUR idea

What's your plan? Fall for knee jerk reactions?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

It's already the law. It's already suppose to be happening.

Every right has infringement. Just saying its infringement so it can't be allowed is really a difficult position to defend.

No being able to legally posses air to air missile batteries, tanks, fully automatic weapons are an infringement on your rights. You want those legal also, correct?

WHAT ABOUT NUCULAR WEAPONS GAIZ SHOULD THOSE BE LEGAL TOO!!!!111