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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:29 PM   #406
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The thought there there is such a thing as a reach for a quarterback is silly.

Over the last 5-6 years, the bust rate of quarterbacks has been one of the lowest of any position group.

Would you rather have a guy like Eugene Monroe or Glenn Dorsey...or Joe Flacco?

**** the thought process that any other position can help your team more than a quarterback.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:55 PM   #407
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That is some shitty hindsight you have there.

In that draft he was the best impact player. Jesus, he was a badass.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:56 PM   #408
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Was that the same draft with Troy Aikman?
Yes the very same in which Derrick and Prime was drafted too
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:00 PM   #409
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I'd trade Barry Sanders AND Derrick Thomas for Troy Aikman.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #410
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Interesting that the article doesn't mention that the Chiefs took a left tackle prospect in both the second and third round of the 2012 NFL Draft.

You would think that taking guys as high as the second and third round for a spot would be an indicator that they would be expected to play sooner rather than later.

If you don't take a guy in the first and that guy doesn't end up being a starter day one, the national media doesn't remember or care about jack shit.

I mean, I've seen mocks where the Chiefs are taking Starlite Lotulelei. WTF? They just took Poe in the first last year and he was the starter at NT for the whole year.

They take Allen and Stephenson in the second and third rounds, respectively, in the 2012 draft and that means that we should take Joeckel in the first in 2013? ****ing morons.
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I'd trade Barry Sanders AND Derrick Thomas for Troy Aikman.

If Troy went to the Lions, he'd just be another failed QB in that organization. They trying hard as **** to destroy Stafford.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:48 PM   #412
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:25 AM   #413
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
Manti Te'o at #1 overall
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:29 AM   #414
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:34 AM   #415
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Interesting that the article doesn't mention that the Chiefs took a left tackle prospect in both the second and third round of the 2012 NFL Draft.

You would think that taking guys as high as the second and third round for a spot would be an indicator that they would be expected to play sooner rather than later.


that's because they are both garbage and our GM was an idiot and passed a lot of good players and needs elsewhere to take those guys, because he had an ego with a short draft board.
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
CoMo can teach some things to people like Discuss, Backwards, LAChieffan etc


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Apparently Sorter as well.
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
Sig and AV bet for a year that Geno goes in the first round.



Come on, Ringo. Do it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:42 AM   #418
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Sig and AV bet for a year that Geno goes in the first round.



Come on, Ringo. Do it.
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Sig and AV bet for a year that Geno goes in the first round.



Come on, Ringo. Do it.
Hell, let's make him leave for a year
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he won't *sucks on cig, coughs up blood, then drinks from flask*

He's a pussy. Ringo has always been weak mentally.
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