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Old 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:51 AM   #421
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:54 AM   #422
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
You don't pay attention too well, do you?

Jeff Allen and Don Stephenson were drafted in the second and third rounds of the 2012 NFL Draft.

Both starting left tackles, and good ones, in college.

And you are wanting to embrace redundancy by drafting another tackle high in the draft? That would make three tackles in two years, plus the signing of Winston.

So, you think that drafting Joeckel to give the team five tackles taken high in the draft (including Albert and Winston) is a good idea?

That sounds so good it hurts.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:55 AM   #423
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:57 AM   #424
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:59 AM   #426
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that's because they are both garbage and our GM was an idiot and passed a lot of good players and needs elsewhere to take those guys, because he had an ego with a short draft board.
No they are not.

Both were well regarded prospects that had very good college careers and went exactly were the NFL projected them to go in terms of round/picks.

Albert
Winston
Allen
Stephenson

That's four tackles that were taken in Round three or above in the NFL Draft since 2006.

And you think taking another one is a good idea?

That's as smart as taking another DT/NT.

My God, some of you people are just ****ing stupid sometimes.
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In one of my classes in college a few years ago, can't remember which one, but we had this lecture where we discussed how vital first impressions are in terms of socialization. Basically, the teacher showed us some results of studies that were performed with intentions of pinpointing how vital first impressions can be or how much of a long-term impact they can have. In a generalized nutshell, the results showed that first impressions are very difficult to change after they are formed. In many cases it can take a very long time for someone's perception of someone or something being changed...especially if the first impression was negative.

If these claims are legit, then Reid and Dorsey are treading dangerous waters in terms of immediate or potentially semi-long term fan approval if they do something ridiculous like select Joeckel. I think we are going QB.

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Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.

The good news is we can have our cake and eat it to.

Select Joeckel with number one pick and Geno will still be there waiting for us with open arms in the second.
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If Albert isn't re-signed (which Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Albert so I doubt he will be) then Joeckel should be the pick...it's a LT...it warrants the #1 overall pick.

Just warning the people now that slob over Geno Smith because this will happen. Smith isn't a 1st round pick, no matter how much the ppl here think he is.
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The good news is we can have our cake and eat it to.

Select Joeckel with number one pick and Geno will still be there waiting for us with open arms in the second.
0% chance geno is there in round 2
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The good news is we can have our cake and eat it to.

Select Joeckel with number one pick and Geno will still be there waiting for us with open arms in the second.
Geno doesnt make it out of the first 3 picks. I will bet all of your moms money on that.
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Geno doesnt make it out of the first 3 picks. I will bet all of your moms money on that.
If we don't take him we will be facing him 2x a year
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Name the starting Left Tackles for the last 5 winning Super Bowl teams???


Now name the QB's.

The Chiefs have Not won a SB since the last time they had a HOF QB- you think they would be able to figure out why??

QB's win Super Bowls Not Left tackles.
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