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Old 01-18-2013, 10:05 PM  
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Would you take Te'o with the 2nd round pick?

With the scandal it could be possible that teams might shy away from Manti Te'o in the 1st round. He does play a position that is a need for the Chiefs. We have recently stolen a first round quality LB (Houston) in the 3rd round in a loosely similar situation.

With all that in mind, and assuming the Chiefs take care of the QB need in the 1st, are you for or against taking Te'o in the 2nd if he's still on the board?

I'm torn on this scenario myself. Frankly I'm always very dubious of media hypes for Notre Dame players. Until I heard about this "fantastic" ILB later in the season I hadn't seen him in action. I must say I have watched him in 3 games since then and am not impressed. Maybe not even as a 2nd rounder. Maybe he was spectacular until I started watching him, but I doubt it. Has anyone here watched him all season or last season and can convince me he's worth our 2nd rounder?
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:59 AM   #46
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A MLB/ILB with marginal speed to cover?


Not a ****ing chance.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:01 AM   #47
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Correct. That's IF we haven't drafted a QB in the 1st.
I'm not sure that matters


If Tyler Wilson is there in the 2nd round i think we have to seriously consider selecting him EVEN IF we have already selected Geno Smith.


Not only could he provide an insurance policy and valuable depth, he could also be traded for a 1st round pick later on if he turns out to be good.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #48
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Haha

It would be ****ed up to replace Belcher (who killed his girlfriend) with Teo (who acted like his made up girlfriend died)
WOW, good observation.

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No way.

I said way back in December (maybe November) that he was slow as shit and was basically a poor man's Rey Maualuga, who lasted until the second.

Unless the guy runs a 4.43 (which he won't - maybe a 5.43), he's a 4th rounder.
More like what I think of him. But then I repeat, my idea of him was only formed after watching him in parts of two late season games plus the National Champ game.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:13 AM   #49
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:18 AM   #50
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that too

He will have to show enough speed and quicknees to be able to handle NFL level talent or his stock will drop like a rock.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:20 AM   #51
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Yeah, he would never fall for a fake.

You can't overstate the role that his "story" played in his evaluation. It pointed to him as a leader, as strong, the kind of guy you want on your team.

Whether he played a role in the hoax or not, that story isn't really his story and now you're forced to look at him as just another MLB draft prospect.

I'd take Minter, Ogletree, A. Jackson, Nico Johnson, and Shayne Skov before I'd take Te'o.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:36 AM   #52
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I'm not sure that matters


If Tyler Wilson is there in the 2nd round i think we have to seriously consider selecting him EVEN IF we have already selected Geno Smith.


Not only could he provide an insurance policy and valuable depth, he could also be traded for a 1st round pick later on if he turns out to be good.
If teams know we NEED to get rid of a QB they won't give us a 1st for him.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:40 AM   #53
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If teams know we NEED to get rid of a QB they won't give us a 1st for him.
Why would we need to get rid of back up QB?
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:45 AM   #54
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:56 AM   #55
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I'm not sure that matters


If Tyler Wilson is there in the 2nd round i think we have to seriously consider selecting him EVEN IF we have already selected Geno Smith.


Not only could he provide an insurance policy and valuable depth, he could also be traded for a 1st round pick later on if he turns out to be good.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:11 PM   #56
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If teams know we NEED to get rid of a QB they won't give us a 1st for him.
with the new draft salary slotting there wouldn't be any NEED to get rid of a QB. It would totally be a voluntary/value move.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:13 PM   #57
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I don't think i would for any other QB but if we have a chance to get the 2 best QB's in the draft(imo) then you have to seriously consider it.

I have Geno/Wilson as my #1/#2

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Old 01-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #58
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Why would we need to get rid of back up QB?
I wouldn't consider a QB I pick at the top of the 2nd, "back up." I consider him insurance in case the #1 busts. If they don't bust then we will have 2 high salaried players and will keep only one. Other teams will know that. The scenario I replied to was Geno in the 1st and Wilson in the 2nd. The author was suggesting that we then could trade Wilson away for someone's 1st.

And BTW, until further data, I consider Wilson in the 2nd a much wiser pick than Geno in the 1st. Unless Geno in the 1st is a result of trade down and Dorsey has raped a team out of a bunch of draft choices for it.

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with the new draft salary slotting there wouldn't be any NEED to get rid of a QB. It would totally be a voluntary/value move.
I just strongly doubt Dorsey will go QB 1 & 2.

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I have Geno/Smith as my #1/#2
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:59 PM   #59
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No.

He was exposed in the title game for what he is, an okay college player that had his reputation blown up by the Notre Dame hype machine. He was completely overmatched by Alabama's players, and it'll be even worse on the field against an NFL roster.
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Yeah, he would never fall for a fake.

You can't overstate the role that his "story" played in his evaluation. It pointed to him as a leader, as strong, the kind of guy you want on your team.

Whether he played a role in the hoax or not, that story isn't really his story and now you're forced to look at him as just another MLB draft prospect.

I'd take Minter, Ogletree, A. Jackson, Nico Johnson, and Shayne Skov before I'd take Te'o.
Jon Bostic, Florida, is an absolute animal at MLB.
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