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Old 01-19-2013, 12:22 AM  
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9/11 had to of been an inside job

I just watched Loose Change for the first time and was blown away. The evidence in that film is DAMNING.

I'm now convinced that the US Gov was in on 9/11 and did it so they could start a war in the Middle East. Also maybe Israel was in on it as well.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:20 PM   #61
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:34 PM   #62
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If our government/Bush was behind 9/11, if they were capable of something that big why wouldn't they have planted WMD's in Iraq to gain world support for the invasion? That would have been MUCH easier than orchestrating the 9/11 attack with the amount of people it would take to keep quiet. If we would have found WMD's Bush would have went down as a hero and one of the greatest presidents ever.
HAHA they tried, but it didn't work.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:35 PM   #63
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That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

There are certainly amoral douchebags in the government who wouldn't hesitate to do this if they could. But it is 100% ****ing impossible for the government to successfully pull off a conspiracy of this magnitude.
I would say it's 100% impossible for a group of cavemen to have pulled this off, Norad stand down says HI - Thanks Darth Cheney.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:36 PM   #64
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HAHA they tried, but it didn't work.
If they had wanted to do that, there wouldn't need to be any "try" about it.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:37 PM   #65
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If they had wanted to do that, there wouldn't need to be any "try" about it.
Yes there would, thankfully we still have some honest people in positions to call bullshit.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:40 PM   #66
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Yes there would, thankfully we still have some honest people in positions to call bullshit.
No. No, there wouldn't be. it would have been quite simple to do that. Much, much simpler than your ideas about a 9/11 conspiracy.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:47 PM   #67
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Just curious, KC. Are there any conspiracy theories you DON'T believe?
Global warming - that one's just a little too far-fetched.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:52 PM   #68
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If our government/Bush was behind 9/11, if they were capable of something that big why wouldn't they have planted WMD's in Iraq to gain world support for the invasion? That would have been MUCH easier than orchestrating the 9/11 attack with the amount of people it would take to keep quiet. If we would have found WMD's Bush would have went down as a hero and one of the greatest presidents ever.
You seem to be unaware of the US gov't history in the middle east. It's been our foreign policy to invade using military aggression, then subsidize the new puppet regime and set up shop for the private sector dating all the way back 5 decades. See Vietnam, Iran/Contra, Pakistan, Afghanistan & the americas.

Then see our USC disabled by those who "serve our country".

As for "behind 9/11" that is a statement that can mean anything -- it's subjective.

In case you are unaware, law abiding americans are buying up munitions by the truckload. They are tired of the lies. Tired of watching america being turned into a Corporatist empire on their dime.

It doesn't matter what lies anymore. Folks are fed up. They are stocking up on weapons at alarming rates.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:57 PM   #69
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Lets not talk about the put options on United and American Airlines on that date.

Because that stuff doesn't matter.

There's a small group of people that made TONS of $$ on 9/11 from the attacks. To say they didn't know it was going to happen is a very stupid thing to say.
Yeah, commodities traders did make money that day. However, gold wasn't near the physical commodity it is now, and there were an infinitesimal number of people trading with physical hedging exemptions in oil compared to 2007-8. If commodity traders wanted to invest in terrorist attacks for future benefits, sure as shit is brown they wouldn't orchestrate an attack like 9/11, they would have just bought a Russian nuke, smuggled it into an American city and detonated it. It would have been easier to do than simultaneously hijack four airplanes with box cutters and hit multiple buildings at several hundred miles per hour.

You could make the same unfounded argument for hundreds of states and organizations across the world. Well, "X" could benefit from "Y", so obviously they did it. It's an intellectually lazy attempt to sate a confirmation bias.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:57 PM   #70
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I would say it's 100% impossible for a group of cavemen to have pulled this off, Norad stand down says HI - Thanks Darth Cheney.
You keep saying this. Please illuminate us on which phase of 9/11 would be so impossible for a bunch of "cavemen" (not racist at all) to pull off:

1. Get to the US?
2. Get some rudimentary flight training?
3. Observe flight schedules to coordinate?
4. Get on some planes with box-cutters?
5. Commandeer the planes?
6. Fly them into a few very large buildings?

Building an advanced remote detonation IED takes orders of magnitude more skill than any of that.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:58 PM   #71
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You seem to be unaware of the US gov't history in the middle east. It's been our foreign policy to invade using military aggression, then subsidize the new puppet regime and set up shop for the private sector dating all the way back 5 decades. See Vietnam, Iran/Contra, Pakistan, Afghanistan & the americas.

Then see our USC disabled by those who "serve our country".

As for "behind 9/11" that is a statement that can mean anything -- it's subjective.

In case you are unaware, law abiding americans are buying up munitions by the truckload. They are tired of the lies. Tired of watching america being turned into a Corporatist empire on their dime.

It doesn't matter what lies anymore. Folks are fed up. They are stocking up on weapons at alarming rates.
Yes, people are stocking up on weapons because they are worried about American turning into a corporatist empire, which is why you saw such a large spike in the purchasing of munitions after the Wall St. bailout and Citizens United decis--oh, wait.
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Go further. This elaborate conspiracy based on the premise that none of these people have any reservation about killing thousands of Americans are going to let this one little douche with his Mac live to expose the whole elaborate ****ing thing.
So you are saying if I was to know something that could prove what the government has said was not the truth, my life would be in danger?
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I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #73
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You seem to be unaware of the US gov't history in the middle east. It's been our foreign policy to invade using military aggression, then subsidize the new puppet regime and set up shop for the private sector dating all the way back 5 decades. See Vietnam, Iran/Contra, Pakistan, Afghanistan & the americas.

Then see our USC disabled by those who "serve our country".

As for "behind 9/11" that is a statement that can mean anything -- it's subjective.

In case you are unaware, law abiding americans are buying up munitions by the truckload. They are tired of the lies. Tired of watching america being turned into a Corporatist empire on their dime.

It doesn't matter what lies anymore. Folks are fed up. They are stocking up on weapons at alarming rates.
If you really think the US millitary is going to come after you - what good are your guns going to do vs. a drone? Like all of this - it makes no sense.

Humans are emotional creatures first and rational second. Slick snake oil salesman like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck have got a few people all worked up to think the end of days are nigh The only real fear is that they get some critical mass of those people worked up to create their own reality.
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If our government/Bush was behind 9/11, if they were capable of something that big why wouldn't they have planted WMD's in Iraq to gain world support for the invasion? That would have been MUCH easier than orchestrating the 9/11 attack with the amount of people it would take to keep quiet. If we would have found WMD's Bush would have went down as a hero and one of the greatest presidents ever.
The common sense argument never works.
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:12 PM   #75
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So you are saying if I was to know something that could prove what the government has said was not the truth, my life would be in danger?
I'm saying if the gov't is going to go to such elaborate lengths then why risk having some slap dick with a Mac exposing the whole thing when sending a hit squad to off him is so much easier.
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