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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:06 PM   #451
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In Gil Brandt's case, that is absolutely true. He said the other day he thinks Cassel has all the tools to be a successful QB in the NFL. It's like the last 4 years never happened.
**** him. He can't die soon enough.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:14 PM   #452
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In Gil Brandt's case, that is absolutely true. He said the other day he thinks Cassel has all the tools to be a successful QB in the NFL. It's like the last 4 years never happened.
Brandt's right. Accurate passer, check! Pocket presence, check! Ability to make multiple reads, check! Takes personal responsibility for the team, makes people around him better, check! Played in New England, check!

The guy can do it all. Especially play for New England.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:15 PM   #453
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lets just imagine real quick we draft Geno

Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Geno Smith

my God we could go 0-16 and I don't think anyone would be entitled to complain because that's EXACTLY what SOC and this board wanted
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:16 PM   #454
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lets just imagine real quick we draft Geno

Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Geno Smith

my God we could go 0-16 and I don't think anyone would be entitled to complain because that's EXACTLY what SOC and this board wanted
With those three, there isn't a chance in hell we'd go 0-16.
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as long as we sign Bowe...

Bowe and Charles and our competent line is more than enough to help out a rookie QB.

That's way better shape than Jacksonville was in with dipshit Gabbert or Miami with Tannehill.

I would trade #34 in a second for a Harvin or Maclin.
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Has all the tools?

Hahahaha.

Cassel can't read a defense, has a chicken shit arm, and no pocket awareness.

He should have stayed at TE at USC.
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Cassel has one of the worst throwing motions I've ever seen...he has to put EVERYTHING into every throw...it used to piss me off like no other.
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Sam Bradford didn't declare the year after Andrew "once in a generation" Luck.

That's the only explanation I can come up with.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

Geno Smith is a better prospect right now than Sam Bradford, IMO. His numbers aren't quite as good, but Bradford had significant talent advantages on his side, especially at the OL spots. Bradford sat in clean pockets almost constantly. In comparison, Geno had to face/avoid/beat a TON of pressure because of his OL.

They both have dazzling accuracy and ball placement, but I think Smith has more raw arm strength (and upside with that arm strength, if he fixes his lower half).
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Because these stupid ****ers still think that Cassel is a good QB.
Who thinks that? Name one person, besides Gil Brandt.
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I think Oklahoma's offense is ****ing stupid. That hurry up look to the sideline schtick is gay.
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Who thinks that? Name one person, besides Gil Brandt.
All the dipshits that have the Chiefs taking a LT.

Why would they have us taking a LT #1 if they didn't believe the Chiefs had anything of value under center?

There is no other logical explanation to taking a LT #1.
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All the dipshits that have the Chiefs taking a LT.
That isn't even logical. They may expect Reid to get a new QB in FA, later in the draft, etc. It does NOT mean they think Cassel is a good QB or that we should keep him.
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I pretty much would never draft an OL before the middle of the 2nd round. No joke.

I almost feel the same way about DL after Dorsey, Jackson, Sims and maybe even Poe.

GIVE ME SKILL ****ING PLAYERS WITH FOOTBALL ****ING SKILLS...

you can find 22 lineman off the god damn street!!!
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I want pass rushers, DBs, WRs, TEs, RBs and, of course, A GOD DAMN 1ST ROUND QB
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our draft this year:

1. BQBA
2. B SKILL PA - RB
3. BPA - RB
3-7: BPA

I would not draft a RB in the first 3 rounds when we have Jamaal Charles. The difference between the RB3 and the RB15 is miniscule. Wait until the 5th to draft a RB this year.
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