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Old 01-14-2013, 07:34 PM  
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New York the rest of the United States says thank you!!

I'm sorry in the short term for NY gun owners but in the long term this will likely result in only good supreme court rulings. I suspect this won't even be permitted to go into effect. Paging Alan Gura time to earn some money in NYS!

Basically they're declaring an assault weapon as anything having even one feature. 7 round magazine limits and removal of the old grandfathering in 94 of larger capacity magazines. If you don't destroy them you're a felon!

This one is going to get squarely kicked in the nuts by the courts. Which is good, if they went less extreme the Supreme Court might not rule so harshly against them. This way not only will they lose their HiCap and AW bans, but almost certainly every other state in the union too.

Sucks for you in the short term NY, but your sacrifice will pay off in the long term!

Talk about taking one for the team!

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-senate-lead...172207666.html

NY Senate leader says he expects gun control bill
By MICHAEL GORMLEY | Associated Press – 8 hrs ago

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — A key New York Senate leader said he expects the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation's first gun control measure following last month's Connecticut school shooting.

"I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today," Klein told reporters Monday morning. "I'm very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly."

People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.

The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.

A Cuomo administration official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final, said there was no agreement yet.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

The vote also would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" that would dispense with the three days of public review that bills are supposed to have under the state constitution. There was no immediate comment from Cuomo, who made these gun control provisions a keynote of his State of the State address on Wednesday.

The negotiations faced several challenges.

The bill will be the first test of the new coalition in control of the state Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control "has the intensity of the gay marriage issue." In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

"It was always startling to me the vast cultural divide between New York City metropolitan view on gun control and most of the upstate communities," said Balboni, who represented part of Long Island for 10 years and was a Senate leader.

"Gun advocates see these incidents as almost cyclical and that in the wake of a national shooting incident, they have seen repeated calls for control," he said Monday. "They view it as a slippery slope to the banning and confiscation of weapons. Emotions run high and there will be tremendous pressure on all upstate legislators, Republicans and Democrats, to keep their base."

Also a concern is a major gun manufacturer in upstate New York.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve in Webster, N.Y., when two firefighters were slain responding to a fire. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

Republican Assemblyman Marc Butler warned last week that a more restrictive assault weapon ban could cost the factory 300 jobs.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:37 PM   #31
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Looks like the dumbass NY libtards forgot to exempt LEO's from the 7-round magazine limit.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8958116
you gotta pass it to know what's in it. No need to read before a vote. idiots
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:45 PM   #32
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Looks like the dumbass NY libtards forgot to exempt LEO's from the 7-round magazine limit.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8958116
Sorry additions laws exempting LEO's from the provision of this law would be a violation of the 14th amendment regarding equal treatment under the law for all citizens.

If you want to implement a law fine....everyone including LEO's must play by the same rules.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:04 PM   #33
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:41 PM   #34
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"- Require a therapist who believes a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally to report the threat to a mental health director who would then have to report serious threats to the state Department of Criminal Justice Services. A patient’s gun could be taken from him or her."


Or else.....? What is the punishment if they don't? And how can they prove it? And what rights does the therapist have in client-professional confidentiality privilege?
they are already required to report any serious threat to the authorities and so are lawyers outside of privlege. And they better be right and just because they'll lose their respective lic over it should it prove to be untrue,
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:49 PM   #35
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Looks like the dumbass NY libtards forgot to exempt LEO's from the 7-round magazine limit.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8958116
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State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain, told us he's going to push for an amendment next week to exempt police officers from the high-capacity magazine ban. In his words, "You can't give more ammo to the criminals"

Uhm, did this guy just inadvertently admit that these laws are not going to have any affect on the criminal population in NY?

Seriously, the guy just admitted what we gun rights activists have been saying all along, the only people these laws are going to affect are the law abiding citizens.


Oh, and the cops.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:32 PM   #37
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:18 PM   #38
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What happens in five years or so when the murder rate doesn't decrease, and they can't link any assault weapons to the deaths?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:24 PM   #40
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Over/under on number of dead people within the realm of that photo NOT killed by assault weapons?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:38 PM   #41
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What happens in five years or so when the murder rate doesn't decrease, and they can't link any assault weapons to the deaths?
Well clearly then they'll need to ban more guns because banning 'assault' weapons didn't do enough!
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Over/under on number of dead people within the realm of that photo NOT killed by assault weapons?
It's true NY may be overreacting a slight bit with the new laws. New York City only had 414 homicides in all of 2012, the lowest ever recorded since record keeping began in 1963.

While other places such as Illinois might want to examine their gun laws with Chicago having over 500 in 2012 alone.

In fact, I saw that if NY had the same murder rate as Chicago it would have totaled more than 1,400 murders last year.

Who knows.
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Well clearly then they'll need to ban more guns because banning 'assault' weapons didn't do enough!
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Well clearly then they'll need to ban more guns because banning 'assault' weapons didn't do enough!
Banning assault weapons opens up more resources for authorities to pinpoint illegal possession of handguns which are what most of the violence in America is caused by.

At least that's what I hear many pols saying. Makes sense.
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Banning assault weapons opens up more resources for authorities to pinpoint illegal possession of handguns which are what most of the violence in America is caused by.

At least that's what I hear many pols saying. Makes sense.
Making something illegal opens resources to search for something else makes sense? Won't they need to look for the illegal "assault rifles" now? Banning "assault rifles" takes more resources to enforce than if they were legal. That's the most ass backwards excuse I've ever heard.
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