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Old 01-20-2013, 01:19 AM   #241
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And to the Geno crowd, I like the kid. I'm just terrified that this guy is Brandon Weeden part deux. They are very similar. Both had huge stats their last 2 years, insane accuracy, played in a simplified spread offense, were said to be mature, had an amazing WR to throw to.

Weeden really struggled in the WCO this year and made some bad decisions.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:14 AM   #242
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And to the Geno crowd, I like the kid. I'm just terrified that this guy is Brandon Weeden part deux. They are very similar. Both had huge stats their last 2 years, insane accuracy, played in a simplified spread offense, were said to be mature, had an amazing WR to throw to.

Weeden really struggled in the WCO this year and made some bad decisions.
People are just making up random comparisons now.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:20 AM   #243
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People are just making up random comparisons now.
Weeden's stats at OSU

Jr.-4,277 yards 34 TD's 13 INT's 67% completion percentage
Sr.-4,727 yards 37 TD's 13 INT's 72% completion percentage

Both played in Dana Holgersen's spread offense. Same conference. Same 1st round caliber WR to throw to. Same accuracy.

They are extremely similar. Geno has a higher ceiling, but as prospects, similarity in system, numbers and same opponents is eerily similar.

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Weeden's stats at OSU

Jr.-4,277 yards 34 TD's 13 INT's 67% completion percentage
Sr.-4,727 yards 37 TD's 13 INT's 72% completion percentage

Both played in Dana Holgersen's spread offense. Same conference. Same 1st round caliber WR to throw to. Same accuracy.

They are extremely similar. Geno has a higher ceiling, but as prospects, similarity in system, numbers and same opponents is eerily similar.
The only similarity of consequence there is accuracy. I don't care about similiar stats, coaches, WR, offense ect. All those are things that no QB can control. Now if they had similar progressions, pocket awareness, feet, touch, deep ball, ect. then it would be relevant. 4 of the 5 stats are circumstantial.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:38 AM   #245
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The only similarity of consequence there is accuracy. I don't care about similiar stats, coaches, WR, offense ect. All those are things that no QB can control. Now if they had similar progressions, pocket awareness, feet, touch, deep ball, ect. then it would be relevant. 4 of the 5 stats are circumstantial.
Who do you compare him to?
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And to the Geno crowd, I like the kid. I'm just terrified that this guy is Brandon Weeden part deux. They are very similar. Both had huge stats their last 2 years, insane accuracy, played in a simplified spread offense, were said to be mature, had an amazing WR to throw to.

Weeden really struggled in the WCO this year and made some bad decisions.
just shut the **** up please

you haven't watched either play a single snap in college
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:06 AM   #247
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just shut the **** up please

you haven't watched either play a single snap in college
Tommy Tuberville thinks so too. Guess he's a dumbass. He doesn't coach football or anything.

http://www.eersauthority.com/tubberv...eno-smith-wvu/

"He is pretty close to what Weeden was in different ways. He has great touch on the ball. He has a lot of speed at receiver. He has that knack of sitting in the pocket. He will take a sack and understands that he does not want to turn it over and that there is another play.”

Btw-I'm still waiting for you to quit whining and give an opinion on the kid.

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Old 01-20-2013, 04:42 AM   #248
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Tommy Tuberville thinks so too. Guess he's a dumbass. He doesn't coach football or anything.

http://www.eersauthority.com/tubberv...eno-smith-wvu/

"He is pretty close to what Weeden was in different ways. He has great touch on the ball. He has a lot of speed at receiver. He has that knack of sitting in the pocket. He will take a sack and understands that he does not want to turn it over and that there is another play.

Btw-I'm still waiting for you to quit whining and give an opinion on the kid.
First I no curr what Tommy Tuberville thinks about Geno Smith because I don't know nor care who Tommy Tuberville is.

Second even if Geno Smith compares to Weeden in the aspects you mention, the upside to Geno Smith is far greater. Geno is young and ready to be coached to get better in the pros. He may struggle in his first year & I expect that from a rookie. The upside to Geno Smith is far greater than worrying about him being a bust. That just isn't fair to a team that hasn't drafted a QB in 30 years in the first round. What I'm really trying to say is don't be a chicken shit.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:03 AM   #249
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Tommy Tuberville thinks so too. Guess he's a dumbass. He doesn't coach football or anything.

http://www.eersauthority.com/tubberv...eno-smith-wvu/

"He is pretty close to what Weeden was in different ways. He has great touch on the ball. He has a lot of speed at receiver. He has that knack of sitting in the pocket. He will take a sack and understands that he does not want to turn it over and that there is another play.

Btw-I'm still waiting for you to quit whining and give an opinion on the kid.
hey, ComoKC, I've posted 100000000 times about geno in this thread....what teh **** more can I say about him? Read the thread, you lazy piece of shit

the only question anyone has is why you've made this thread "RunKC's Emo How I Feel Today About QBs I've Never Watched Play Thread"?

we've had to listen to you explain how Geno was just an illiterate share cropper ("I've got secret evidence!") who only throws passes to one WR, the WR he stares at in the huddle, as they line up, during the play, as he walks off the field, and as he sits on the bench (even as play continues)...

then, through the power of youtube and espn stats, Geno became Eric Crouch, then Tim Couch, then Brandon Weedon, and next Tito Puente...

it's cool you 'do research' on QBs with a split-screen of Spankwire while listening to Silverchair...but not really..just cut it out
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it's cool you 'do research' on QBs with a split-screen of Spankwire while listening to Silverchair...but not really..just cut it out
Wait hold on a god damn second....

















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And to the Geno crowd, I like the kid. I'm just terrified that this guy is Brandon Weeden part deux. They are very similar. Both had huge stats their last 2 years, insane accuracy, played in a simplified spread offense, were said to be mature, had an amazing WR to throw to.
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Many spread, no-huddle teams nowadays have their offenses line up and then look toward the sideline to receive additional instruction. This allows coaches to get a look at the defense, but defenses also make adjustments during this time, so the offense rarely gains the upper hand. The Air Raiders skip that step and rely on the quarterback to make smart decisions. So far, West Virginia's Geno Smith has done an excellent job
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Weeden was an immobile, 28 year old former pro baseball player with an okay arm.

The only comparison that Geno and Weeden have is that they had good accuracy. Geno has better pocket awareness and athleticism. Weeden was more Bledsoe than anything - without the arm. Hell, I'd say Weeden was substantially less mobile than that. Accurate on short crossing patterns, but he rarely went over the top of the defense. And if he was forced to move out of the pocket, his accuracy took a huge hit. Geno excels at throwing on the move. Deep. Comparing Geno to Weeden is, for lack of a better word, ignorant. They are not even remotely close to being similar.

Look dude...I know that you don't want Geno because some dipshit with a camera at the Texas game thought he saw Geno "flash" a gang sign after celebrating the win on the road over UT.

I gotta tell you, that doesn't mean jack squat.

If you want to keep coming in here and trying to discredit Geno, and subsequently getting clowned for it by 158 different guys who can see the excellent traits and attributes that Geno has, then go right ahead. However, you are not going to convince a single person with a modicum of intelligence that he isn't the best QB in this draft and that the Chiefs shouldn't take him. Especially in this thread.

I mean, if you want to go to some retard board with retard fans and post retard shit, I'm sure that someone would be willing to listen to your trade down and draft Manti Te'o or Luke Joeckel and get a QB in round two so the Chiefs can continue to be a bunch of losers bullshit, but it ain't here.
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Tommy Tuberville thinks so too. Guess he's a dumb ass. He doesn't coach football or anything.

http://www.eersauthority.com/tubberv...eno-smith-wvu/

"He is pretty close to what Weeden was in different ways. He has great touch on the ball. He has a lot of speed at receiver. He has that knack of sitting in the pocket. He will take a sack and understands that he does not want to turn it over and that there is another play.”

Btw-I'm still waiting for you to quit whining and give an opinion on the kid.
Brandon Weeden is ****ing 30 years old and should be at his professional apex. Geno Smith is 23 years old and has room to grow. If you cannot understand the difference between a 30 year-old and a 23 year-old in terms of QB development, you can go **** your retarded self. Last time I checked, being a dumb ass and a coach is not mutually exclusive. See John Fox or Mike Smith.

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Weeden was an immobile, 28 year old former pro baseball player with an okay arm.

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Weeden has a very good release and very good arm.
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And to the Geno crowd, I like the kid. I'm just terrified that this guy is Brandon Weeden part deux. They are very similar. Both had huge stats their last 2 years, insane accuracy, played in a simplified spread offense, were said to be mature, had an amazing WR to throw to.

Weeden really struggled in the WCO this year and made some bad decisions.
You have got to be ****ing kidding me Geno's 30 now?
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