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Old 01-14-2013, 09:49 AM  
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Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?

Why do the Anti-Gun crowd hate women?
Why would you want to make it harder or impossible for a woman to defend herself against rape or sexual assault?

Remember, just because you are the wormy squirly girly man type and most women can kick your ass anyway does not mean there are not others out there she can't and may need a little help to equalize..
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:15 PM   #271
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You argued earlier in this thread that you feared a police state, which was aided and abetted by gun control. My counter was that you haven't taken stances in countless previous threads that would prove your affinity for resisting the police state when it came to any other amendment but the 2nd.

By the way, in the interest of actually clearing things up, no I didn't. This is the exchange:


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I would say that, as private citizens, we're already very well armed. I'd argue that we're excessively armed.

I would increase what we pay the police though in a lot of cities to help them get more resources, however.
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There isn't enough money or manpower to effectively supply enough assets to constantly police our entire nation. That's a good thing. I'd rather not live in a police state. Luckily we still do have citizens who will, if allowed, help to guard our society. Thankfully we have a founding document that allows that to happen if it is adhered to.
Here I was stating that carpeting our entire nation with police in such a way that citizens wouldn't have to worry about self defense would be akin to living in a police state. You're grasping at straws and attempting to redefine that ridiculous baseless accusation that you made. So...you've still got nothing.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:00 PM   #272
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You are in your home and its 3 am. Your husband is gone and your kids are in bed upstairs where you are. You hear a crash downstairs and when you look downstairs to investigate, you see a man in dark clothing rush through the downstairs of your home. Rather than pull out your ready and fully loaded AR-15 rifle with a 30 bullet cartridge and blow this guy away where he stands before he gets near your children, liberals like Piers Morgan. Obama and Bob Costas would rather you try to call 9-11 and perform the liberal self-defense method as pictured below.


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Old 01-18-2013, 05:04 PM   #273
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You are in your home and its 3 am. Your husband is gone and your kids are in bed upstairs where you are. You hear a crash downstairs and when you look downstairs to investigate, you see a man in dark clothing rush through the downstairs of your home. Rather than pull out your ready and fully loaded AR-15 rifle with a 30 bullet cartridge and blow this guy away where he stands before he gets near your children, liberals like Piers Morgan. Obama and Bob Costas would rather you try to call 9-11 and perform the liberal self-defense method as pictured below.


When seconds count the cops are just minutes away.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:08 PM   #274
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When seconds count the cops are just minutes away.
If we just had more police! Perhaps we could station one in her bedroom. You know...for safety.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:21 PM   #275
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It's a war on women by the Left
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:36 PM   #276
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When seconds count the cops are just minutes away.
If those pesky criminals would just obey the dang laws! Lets pass more and maybe they will follow those~
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:50 AM   #277
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When seconds count the cops are just minutes away.
Just remember the courts have repeated ruled that police have no duty to protect you. Their job is to investigate crimes not prevent them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_...ct_of_Columbia
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:27 PM   #278
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Just remember the courts have repeated ruled that police have no duty to protect you. Their job is to investigate crimes not prevent them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_...ct_of_Columbia

It's a good thing those women didn't have guns. Women are dangerous.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:57 PM   #279
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It's a good thing those women didn't have guns. Women are dangerous.
I am a woman and I had a woman stalker. No, I'm not a lesbian neither was she. She just wanted to have my life. Hers sucked. It was quite an ordeal for several months. She was demented and dangerous.

Got my CCW, I carry a 380 and have a 20 gauge shotgun in my home. The shotgun will bleed the intruder rather quickly and drop them before they could get to me or my family.

So I guess you're right, women are dangerous.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:12 AM   #280
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I am a woman and I had a woman stalker. No, I'm not a lesbian neither was she. She just wanted to have my life. Hers sucked. It was quite an ordeal for several months. She was demented and dangerous.

Got my CCW, I carry a 380 and have a 20 gauge shotgun in my home. The shotgun will bleed the intruder rather quickly and drop them before they could get to me or my family.

So I guess you're right, women are dangerous.
You're convinced that she wanted to have your life? Because hers sucked? Yeah she certainly sounds like the crazy one...
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:02 AM   #281
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I am a woman and I had a woman stalker. No, I'm not a lesbian neither was she. She just wanted to have my life. Hers sucked. It was quite an ordeal for several months. She was demented and dangerous.

Got my CCW, I carry a 380 and have a 20 gauge shotgun in my home. The shotgun will bleed the intruder rather quickly and drop them before they could get to me or my family.

So I guess you're right, women are dangerous.

How do you feel about the efforts of those to limit your ability to defend yourself?
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:11 AM   #282
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By the way, in the interest of actually clearing things up, no I didn't. This is the exchange:






Here I was stating that carpeting our entire nation with police in such a way that citizens wouldn't have to worry about self defense would be akin to living in a police state. You're grasping at straws and attempting to redefine that ridiculous baseless accusation that you made. So...you've still got nothing.
Seriously, why are you bothering to debate someone who can't follow along with simple lines of logic. Direckshun is irrelevant... he is simply too ****ing stupid to be worth wasting time on. If he represents the status quo for Springfield than I weep for southern Missouri.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:03 AM   #283
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Seriously, why are you bothering to debate someone who can't follow along with simple lines of logic. Direckshun is irrelevant... he is simply too ****ing stupid to be worth wasting time on. If he represents the status quo for Springfield than I weep for southern Missouri.
Just about the same as about 90% of the tail chasing liberals....



It's very simple, if the solution is a gun, a gun hater is not going to agree with it regardless of the logic.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:48 PM   #284
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You're convinced that she wanted to have your life? Because hers sucked? Yeah she certainly sounds like the crazy one...
I have agreed with everything ListOPencil and you, until you say this. Please explain.

ListOPencil seems to be the most consistent and logical in his/her statements as did you until this.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:08 PM   #285
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How do you feel about the efforts of those to limit your ability to defend yourself?
The circumstances are quite involved and I'll not air them here but I considered and acted on all my options.

I already owned a dog which had proven a visual deterrent (workmen coming into the house waited until I harnessed her, etc.) and I had already taken self-defense, had mace, a safe room, etc. Taking and obtaining my CCW, using, practicing and buying the guns was an absolute last resort.

Everything with the exception of the guns called for close proximity to the person. The woman was close to 6' and probably weighed somewhere between 350-400 lbs., she had been in my house and the police suggested that she may not act alone (getting friends or others to help her).
It was at the urging of the police that I take the CCW course and practice, practice, practice which I have done. It was also at that point when I conceded to getting a gun.

I had talked extensively with my attorney, the local police, neighbors, security at my workplace and all family members and friends in an effort to avoid a confrontation that ended in gunfire and possible death.
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