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Old 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

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For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:25 AM   #526
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Oh, there are QB's. Hopefully the Faid are stupid enough to stick with Palmer/Pryor and waste their bad year on Teo.
I hope you guys are dumb enough to take Geno with the #1
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #527
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Too bad you guys had to have the #1 pick in a year there are no QB's
No QBs?
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #528
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I hope you guys are dumb enough to take Geno with the #1
You really aren't very bright.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #529
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I hope you guys are dumb enough to take Geno with the #1
Alrighty then. Be careful what you wish for and I'd be shocked if you've even seen him play.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #530
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This would be the best "Can't Miss" pick for the Cheapos
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #531
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He didn't go 23/24 300 yards 3 scores 0 turnovers and no sacks so they were bad games.
Wow this is just ****ing absurd I even said I would draft him #1 overall and still get shit for pointing out the obvious he wasn't very good in either game. You guys go Peoples Temple on the kid.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #532
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Wow this is just ****ing absurd I even said I would draft him #1 overall and still get shit for pointing out the obvious he wasn't very good in either game. You guys go Peoples Temple on the kid.
Come on. What are the serious question?
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:29 AM   #533
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What about the Kstate game or the texas tech game? Look I draft Geno #1 but I think there are some serious questions about him.
I didn't see the K-State game so I can not comment on that.

The TT game, they did an outstanding job of taking away his deep receivers and keeping everything in front of them.

It was the one game in which he felt the pressure to push the ball to make things happen, which led to a couple of bad decisions.

Overall, though, it wasn't a terrible game by Smith, while Holgerson and staff did absolutely nothing to adjust the game plan to counter Tech's strategy in that game.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:32 AM   #534
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I hope you guys are dumb enough to take Geno with the #1
GTFO, you would be rubbing one out to Geno video's right now if your Raiders were picking #1 this year.

While I like Carson Palmer, he is nowhere near the QB he used to be.... and Pryor? lol
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:34 AM   #535
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I didn't see the K-State game so I can not comment on that.

The TT game, they did an outstanding job of taking away his deep receivers and keeping everything in front of them.

It was the one game in which he felt the pressure to push the ball to make things happen, which led to a couple of bad decisions.

Overall, though, it wasn't a terrible game by Smith, while Holgerson and staff did absolutely nothing to adjust the game plan to counter Tech's strategy in that game.
Same thing with the K-State game they were able to take away some things and it looked as though the pressure got to him. That's the thing I was alluding to when I said I have some serious questions about him.

What I love about him though is his size, arm, and his willingness to stand in the pocket and deliver a strike. I believe it was you who pointed out he's always looking down field which would certainly be a change from our QB's the last several years.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:35 AM   #536
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I didn't see the K-State game so I can not comment on that.

The TT game, they did an outstanding job of taking away his deep receivers and keeping everything in front of them.

It was the one game in which he felt the pressure to push the ball to make things happen, which led to a couple of bad decisions.

Overall, though, it wasn't a terrible game by Smith, while Holgerson and staff did absolutely nothing to adjust the game plan to counter Tech's strategy in that game.
Exactly.

Tech had a great defensive plan. They got up a couple scores early (due to the terrible WV defense), and then just sat back and took away the deep ball so that WV couldn't get back in the game quick.

Holgerson was outcoached.

K-State took what Tech gave them and did it as well, although K-State was just a much much much better overall team.
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Come on. What are the serious question?
When TT and K-State were able to take some things away he struggled. I also think at time he hangs in the pocket for too long and has some minor mechanics that need to be changed.
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GTFO, you would be rubbing one out to Geno video's right now if your Raiders were picking #1 this year.

While I like Carson Palmer, he is nowhere near the QB he used to be.... and Pryor? lol
To be fair. Reighters has been steadfast on not liking any of these guys. I've tried selling him on Wilson to the Faid and he wants no part. Problem is he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:37 AM   #539
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I think its fair to be concerned about his ability to bring a team back to win. He presses, his mechanics breakdown, and he starts to make bad decisions with the ball. But I also think the coaching staff creates the panic also.

Geno will benefit from better coaching and system that he fits. IMO, Reid's offense fits his abilities, and have a lot more faith in Reid's coaching ability.
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Same thing with the K-State game they were able to take away some things and it looked as though the pressure got to him. That's the thing I was alluding to when I said I have some serious questions about him.

What I love about him though is his size, arm, and his willingness to stand in the pocket and deliver a strike. I believe it was you who pointed out he's always looking down field which would certainly be a change from our QB's the last several years.
The fact that he was overcoming the overall lack of talent around him, both on offense and defense, with the exception of receiver, speaks to just how clutch he was overall.

He put that team on his shoulders and almost singlehandedly carried them to wins, to competing in losses, and to a Bowl game.
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