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Old 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

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For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:38 AM   #541
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Wow this is just ****ing absurd I even said I would draft him #1 overall and still get shit for pointing out the obvious he wasn't very good in either game. You guys go Peoples Temple on the kid.
billay, I obviously posted that to get a response. I see you've posted the concerns, so there we go.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:46 AM   #542
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:54 AM   #543
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You guys were 2-14.... You better get the best player available, QB is not the only need you have on this abortion of a team
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:01 AM   #544
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You guys were 2-14.... You better get the best player available, QB is not the only need you have on this abortion of a team
Jake Long and Joe Thomas really turned the fortunes of their respective teams around.

Mario Williams has been the engine that has brought the Texans to the cusp of SB glory.

Meanwhile, the Falcons are regretting their decision to draft Matt Ryan, and the Ravens wish they would have passed on Joe Flacco and taken Jeff Otah instead.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:10 AM   #545
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Jake Long and Joe Thomas really turned the fortunes of their respective teams around.

Mario Williams has been the engine that has brought the Texans to the cusp of SB glory.

Meanwhile, the Falcons are regretting their decision to draft Matt Ryan, and the Ravens wish they would have passed on Joe Flacco and taken Jeff Otah instead.
Geno is no Flacco
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:11 AM   #546
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Geno is no Flacco
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At this time in '08 (I believe), Flacco was being mocked in the second. Thought to have an outside chance of going late in the first.

Hindsight is shaping so much of this debate.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:12 AM   #547
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Jake Long and Joe Thomas really turned the fortunes of their respective teams around.

Mario Williams has been the engine that has brought the Texans to the cusp of SB glory.

Meanwhile, the Falcons are regretting their decision to draft Matt Ryan, and the Ravens wish they would have passed on Joe Flacco and taken Jeff Otah instead.
This.

Name the last LT that pushed his team to a SB...
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Geno is no Flacco
And when the Chiefs draft Geno, I will be thankful for that fact every day.

Flacco is a game manager with a big arm.

But even he provides more impact than any other player at any other position than they could have drafted.
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And when the Chiefs draft Geno, I will be thankful for that fact every day.

Flacco is a game manager with a big arm.

But even he provides more impact than any other player at any other position than they could have drafted.
Flacco is Girbac with a stronger arm.

An yes, he will probably be better than QB X we draft this year.

If he isn't he's gone "full Rivers..."
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Flacco is Girbac with a stronger arm.

An yes, he will probably be better than QB X we draft this year.

If he isn't he's gone "full Rivers..."
I love ya, Rausch, but when it comes to QB, you don't have a clue.
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I love ya, Rausch, but when it comes to QB, you don't have a clue.
You disagree?

I think the hate/years have clouded your judgement.

Girlbac didn't go fetal position until he hit B-more.

Here he carried a team with a very average line, Idiot for an OC, and absolutely no running game.

STRONG arm and accurate deep ball guy...
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You disagree?

I think the hate/years have clouded your judgement.

Girlbac didn't go fetal position until he hit B-more.

Here he carried a team with a very average line, Idiot for an OC, and absolutely no running game.

STRONG arm and accurate deep ball guy...
Physically I don't think your comparison is bad, but Flacco has shown some clutch, the likes of which Grbac could never obtain.
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You disagree?

I think the hate/years have clouded your judgement.

Girlbac didn't go fetal position until he hit B-more.

Here he carried a team with a very average line, Idiot for an OC, and absolutely no running game.

STRONG arm and accurate deep ball guy...
Grbac was never a guy that had the mental toughness to succeed over the long haul.

And his decision making was box of rocks dumb.
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You disagree?

I think the hate/years have clouded your judgement.

Girlbac didn't go fetal position until he hit B-more.

Here he carried a team with a very average line, Idiot for an OC, and absolutely no running game.

STRONG arm and accurate deep ball guy...
And dumb as ****.

Nice arm with a 10 cent brain.
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