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Old 01-19-2013, 07:33 PM  
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Nick Foles to the Chiefs? Two perspectives (well, mostly one)
By MNchiefsfan on Jan 19, 6:33a 692

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Why NOT throw another QB's name into the mix? The Chiefs can use all the help they can get at the position in 2013.

I don't know if you've gotten the memo, but quarterback is the main topic of discussion for the Kansas City Chiefs this offseason and for the 2013 NFL Draft.

What quarterback is the best of this draft class? Should the Chiefs draft a quarterback? What round should we draft a quarterback? Should we get a quarterback in free agency? Is Geno Smith awesome or terrible, with no in between? What quarterbacks are available via trade?

And on and on it goes....

I'm not immune to this latest obsession with quarterbacks. I'd say the decision as to whom the Chiefs place behind center next season will largely make or break the next several years (if not the next dozen years) of Chiefs football. If the Chiefs blow it, we'll continue to be trapped in mediocrity for a couple of years. If the Chiefs knock it out of the park, we might contend for a Super Bowl for a decade. Somewhere in between and we could go back and forth between the two for awhile. It's kind of a big deal.

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:28 AM   #121
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First, I want to make it clear I don't want to do this, I just am curious about the franchise tag and am wondering about this. I do not want to draft LT with #1, so don't flame me.

The franchised player gets the average of the top 5 at his position, right? Hypothetically, if we moved Albert to guard first, then used the franchise tag on him would he get the average of the top 5 guards instead of top 5 LTs?
I don't believe there's anyway that they can just label him a guard after playing his entire career at LT and get away with that.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:31 AM   #122
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I don't believe there's anyway that they can just label him a guard after playing his entire career at LT and get away with that.
THIS!

I don't understand this Albert bashing. He is a good LT. We have way more pressing needs on our team and even on our OL.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:37 AM   #123
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THIS!

I don't understand this Albert bashing. He is a good LT. We have way more pressing needs on our team and even on our OL.
Is been tha way since the day he was drafted.

Move him to guard , draft Okung, Move him to guard Draft Smith, move him to guard draft Loeukel (sp?)

Its been a never ending cycle every year for the last 5 years. I dont understand it.

But the problem is its not just the fans, it guys like mayock and Kiper as well.

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:38 AM   #124
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The only concern re: Albert is his back. That's why I wouldn't mind a 1 year franchise tag for him just to make sure he's ready to play a full season.

But you can't move Albert to guard. Playing him as a guard would require that you either play him at LG and pay him as a franchise LT (if he's tagged), you give him the contract of a franchise LT and play him at LG (horrible), or you ask him to take a guard-sized contract. Since there are probably 5-10 teams out there who would pay him LT money in a heartbeat, THAT'S not happening either.

Drafting Joeckel is a horrible idea.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:39 AM   #125
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Also, realize that not only are the "true fans" completely deaf and dumb to the idea of taking a QB #1, but the football media is also. It's unfathomable that the CHIEFS would draft a QB #1. But the Raiders at #3? That makes sense, says Gil Brandt.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:42 AM   #126
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:43 AM   #127
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Also, realize that not only are the "true fans" completely deaf and dumb to the idea of taking a QB #1, but the football media is also. It's unfathomable that the CHIEFS would draft a QB #1. But the Raiders at #3? That makes sense, says Gil Brandt.
I said it last night, these dipshits still think Cassel is a good QB.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:48 AM   #128
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Didn't we just do this awful shit for the last 4 years? Bring in a backup QB and try to build around him???

HELL NO-ONLY AS A BACKUP. WHY DO WE NEED TWO CASSELS?

WTF?!?!?!

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:35 AM   #129
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No problem dude. Trolls are what we don't tolerate and you don't fit into that category.

Even Chief fans have to have a thick skin to last here. It gets kind of rough. It's the least moderated football board on the internet. It's a helluva lot more interesting especially in the long off season. Gave you some rep. If you are red, everyone will think you are a troll.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:52 AM   #130
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Wilson is a better QB (or will be) than Geno.
You've been telling us that Manti Te'o is the "can't miss" guy for months, and then told us Tyler Wilson will be available to us in the 2nd.

And this is hardly the depths of your dumbassery. You've said far dumber things in past drafts here.

NOBODY thinks your opinions are great. They all think you're ****ing stupid. So go fist a cow.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:56 AM   #131
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Nick Foles ****ing sucks

Stanzi > Cousins > Foles
Don't exaggerate. I don't want Foles, but Stanzi had a better chance to start than any backup the last few years in the NFL, and couldn't get one ****ing snap.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:01 AM   #132
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Wait, wait, wait... you want to keep Cassel around?
Reading comprehension. Make it your friend.

There are two other options I'd prefer for our BACKUP position.
-Sign a vet.
-Draft our own guy.

Cassel's fine as a backup. That's what he is, and his salary drops to a reasonable amount for one. I think he's toxic and will ultimately be cut, and I'm fine with that. I'm great with that.

But giving up a pick for someone else's trash for our backup?

Yeah, no.
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They can post all the glamour pics they want but he's a turd.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:46 AM   #134
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My initial gut reaction was a big "Oh, HELL no!"

But as I consider...

Foles is a totally different scenario than Cassel, or Bono, or Grbac, or Deberg, or anyone else The Chiefs have traded for/signed over the last twenty or so years.

Foles was Reid's QBOTF. He was not drafted to be a backup, he was drafted to be the starter-probably in 2014, but that was the idea. IF Reid wanted to do this, I would cut them slack and get behind it. This would be more like an acquiring of Brett Favre from the Falcons and less like an acquiring Matt Cassel.

I'd give a 2nd for him, as i think he's shown a little at the NFL level and thus would place him above the Glennon/Nassib types in this year's draft. I still would personally place him behind the Geno/Wilson level, though. But honestly, not by much.

I might consider swapping firsts-and taking whichever is left from the Geno/Wilson/Barkley group with the Eagles #1. Take it to camp and let'em fight it out.
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Didn't we just do this awful shit for the last 4 years? Bring in a backup QB and try to build around him???

HELL NO-ONLY AS A BACKUP. WHY DO WE NEED TWO CASSELS?

WTF?!?!?!

Last 20 plus years actually, but some can't get enough of leftovers.
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