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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:46 PM   #601
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I think you need to trade down with someone.... Geno won't go until 7-8
Who is going to trade up, tard?

And for what player?
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:48 PM   #602
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Quit yapping Benji and discuss football. Cujo you ain't. You say Geno carried his team but you never give the same credit to Tyler Wilson who had a much shittier team around him that was coming off a scandal to boot.

And while we are at it I repeat AGAIN. Maybe this time it has a small chance of it penetrating your thick skull. I AM NOT A GENO SMITH HATER. I'm just being logical and cautious until I have more data on him to form my final opinion. Unlike you and other groupies here pining and passing out for him like teenage girls for a boy band lead singer.
Just state what appears to be clear: you rarely saw him play in college and thus are not in a good position to offer a substantive opinion on the player.

No biggie. I'd bet the vast majority of posters on this board have seen only one or two complete games that Smith played in his collegiate career.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:49 PM   #603
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OH HI, GUYZ. THERE IS NO CONSENSUS #1.

LETZ TRADE DOWN BECAUSE EVERYONE WILL WANT TO TRADE UP EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO CONSENSUS #1.

Dumbasses.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:04 PM   #604
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Jake Long and Joe Thomas really turned the fortunes of their respective teams around.

Mario Williams has been the engine that has brought the Texans to the cusp of SB glory.

Meanwhile, the Falcons are regretting their decision to draft Matt Ryan, and the Ravens wish they would have passed on Joe Flacco and taken Jeff Otah instead.
Except Ryan and even Flacco are better prospects than Geno.

God you're a moron.

I personally think Wilson is a better prospect than Flacco.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:06 PM   #605
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Except Ryan and even Flacco are better prospects than Geno.

God you're a moron.

I personally think Wilson is a better prospect than Flacco.
Flacco was definitively not a better prospect than Smith.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:11 PM   #606
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Except Ryan and even Flacco are better prospects than Geno.

God you're a moron.

I personally think Wilson is a better prospect than Flacco.
Flacco was considered a 2nd round prospect that the Ravens reached for in the first round.

Geno Smith is on top of just about everyone's QB board, except for a couple of idiots.

That says that Smith is a better prospect than Flacco was, and only an idiot of your epic level would even argue that.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:19 PM   #607
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Except Ryan and even Flacco are better prospects than Geno.

God you're a moron.

I personally think Wilson is a better prospect than Flacco.


Manti #1?

Honey Badger still the best defender in the draft?

You're the dumbest ****tard on this board, bar none.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:21 PM   #608
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:22 PM   #609
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:24 PM   #610
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Yeah he did play that badly in both of them. I like him but Jesus it's ridiculous that even in bad games the spin is knowmo-esque.
Frank,

Look at the arguments AGAINST Geno.

The spin is a reaction. It may not be right but it is what it is. The pro-Geno crowd has spent 4 months listening to shit like comparisons to Vince Young and Aaron Brooks.

And when that stupid shot gets played out, BlackBob starts another mult account and starts it up again.

You want to see the Geno fans be more realistic? Find a way to get the retards to go the **** away.
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Frank,

Look at the arguments AGAINST Geno.

The spin is a reaction. It may not be right but it is what it is. The pro-Geno crowd has spent 4 months listening to shit like comparisons to Vince Young and Aaron Brooks.

And when that stupid shot gets played out, BlackBob starts another mult account and starts it up again.

You want to see the Geno fans be more realistic? Find a way to get the retards to go the **** away.
It's not reaction. There's literally people on here who want to paint the picture that even when he plays a bad game, it's really not that bad of a game, which is complete bullshit.

I haven't seen much of those comparisons at all.

When you say he had a bad bowl game, Sacconothing, and a few others want to jump out of their skin with a laundry list of excuses.

I'm not a Geno hater. I think he should be the pick. But those painting him as this can't miss, flawless prospect, and want to re-create the bad game matrix are ****ing stupid.

I'm not including you in this.
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It's not reaction. There's literally people on here who want to paint the picture that even when he plays a bad game, it's really not that bad of a game, which is complete bullshit.

I'm not a Geno hater. I think he should be the pick. But those painting him as this can't miss, flawless prospect, and want to re-create the bad game matrix are ****ing stupid.
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He struggled in a few games and was historically awesome in others.

I am supremely confident that Andy Reid can take Geno Smith and make a full blown star out of him in the NFL.
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It's not reaction. There's literally people on here who want to paint the picture that even when he plays a bad game, it's really not that bad of a game, which is complete bullshit.

I haven't seen much of those comparisons at all.

When you say he had a bad bowl game, Sacconothing, and a few others want to jump out of their skin with a laundry list of excuses.

I'm not a Geno hater. I think he should be the pick. But those painting him as this can't miss, flawless prospect, and want to re-create the bad game matrix are ****ing stupid.

I'm not including you in this.
It is a reaction.

You're talking about the tenor of the discussion TODAY. It's absolutely different today than it was.

NOBODY, not even Sac, thinks he's a cant miss prospect.

But one can only take so much "he reminds me of Jamarcus Russell" before one snaps.

EDIT: and no offense, but if you haven't seen the comparisons, you really haven't been paying attention. The official Geno thread got invaded and it hasn't been the same since - for EITHER side of the argument.
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