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Old 01-17-2011, 09:43 AM  
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Is Belichik's ego out of control?

I get the feeling the last few years the man has taken his opinion of his own ability too far and it really shows in the playoffs against good teams. New England has been pounded and dominated the last 2 years against less than stellar opposition.

when you look at the Belichik approach to teambuilding it's obvious he wants 3 things:

1. He doesn't want to pay anybody

2. He doesn't want to deal with distractions

3. He'd rather win with overachievers who won't question anything than talented players who might be apt to open their mouths.

Take this years draft and personnel moves. He likely knew Moss's days were numbered but he still passed on every available upper tier receiving threat. Can you tell me New England's offense couldn't use a Dez Bryant? I believe his receivers had 1 catch yesterday. Also look at his outside pass rushers. In the last 2 years New England has passed on countless quality pass rushers in the draft, in favor of lugs like Jermaine Cunningham. They didn't have a single sack on the QB yesterday and that's inexcusable considering the quantity of draft picks they've had the last few years.

Belchik seems to forget he was able to win superbowls because he had playmakers like Corey Dillon, Richard Seymour, and Rodney Harrison - 3 of the better players and 3 of the more explosive personalities in the league.

Playing with a team full of choirboys next to a hall of fame QB might get you into the playoffs consistently, but to win you need playmakers.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:12 PM   #91
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Belichick is over rated, he's just like Pioli but a bit better but not by much.

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Old 01-21-2013, 05:42 PM   #92
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when you look at the Belichik approach to teambuilding it's obvious he wants 3 things:

1. He doesn't want to pay anybody

2. He doesn't want to deal with distractions

3. He'd rather win with overachievers who won't question anything than talented players who might be apt to open their mouths.
How are those bad? A bosses dream!
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:45 PM   #93
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heh, its interesting how everyone acts as if the Patriots are some awful team now. They have basically become the Yankees, Lakers, or Red Sox. Victims of their own success. I would kill for the Chiefs to have a run like they have had over the past 10 years.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:40 PM   #94
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Hightower, Solder, Ridley/Vereen, Gronk, Hernandez, McCourty. Chandler Jones has upside. Added Talib off waivers. The team is a solid team all the way around. Of course their success post-Brady will be dependent on how good his replacement is, but that's sadly the new NFL. Every coach is going to be a product of the QB. Again, it will depend on how stubborn Bellichick is on applying the Parcells way to finding late round QB steals.
He said defense.

And with all of those picks.....he hasn't drafted one impactful WR for Brady.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:46 PM   #95
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He said defense.

And with all of those picks.....he hasn't drafted one impactful WR for Brady.
No, he just drafted two monster TEs for him, and he probably realized that he can find smart, veteran receivers through FA and trade and spend his picks on players that don't come onto the market as often.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:47 PM   #96
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Someone tweeted it last night and I'm not sure if it's on here or not, but it said the 9ers and Ravens play football like it was played pre Goddell rule monster shit.


I agree with that too.
The smashmouth defenses perhaps, but offensively they're both pretty new age.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:00 PM   #97
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One of the most devastating things for NE is that they've never been able to identify talent at WR, RB, or OLB through the draft.

The defensive scheme is starting to show its age, and their desire to stay with DE-sized OLBs in a league where there is more and more speed seems anachronistic.

Outside of Brady, on offense is there anyone out there who can go out and make a play? Welker might be the most reliable slot WR in the NFL, but at 9.9 YPC, he's not exactly breaking games open.

I don't think you can rely on Jermaine Cunningham, Tully Banta-Cain, and Rob Ninkovich to supply your pass rush.
Niko and Chandler Jones (who was injured) are solid guys off the edge. Not top tier but solid.

They need to IMO upgrad significantly at corner whilst keeping Talib, draft Hunt who can rush the passer from the 3-tech, and get another pass rushing OLB.

Additionally, they need to send more than 4 guys consistently and in a more creative way.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #98
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:07 PM   #99
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Niko and Chandler Jones (who was injured) are solid guys off the edge. Not top tier but solid.

They need to IMO upgrad significantly at corner whilst keeping Talib, draft Hunt who can rush the passer from the 3-tech, and get another pass rushing OLB.

Additionally, they need to send more than 4 guys consistently and in a more creative way.
Shut your mouth, I want Hunt in KC.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:16 PM   #100
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Shut your mouth, I want Hunt in KC.
Good god, I do too. My sig expresses how I feel about Geno + Hunt in the draft for KC.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:23 PM   #101
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Good god, I do too. My sig expresses how I feel about Geno + Hunt in the draft for KC.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:26 PM   #102
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #103
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Niko and Chandler Jones (who was injured) are solid guys off the edge. Not top tier but solid.

They need to IMO upgrad significantly at corner whilst keeping Talib, draft Hunt who can rush the passer from the 3-tech, and get another pass rushing OLB.

Additionally, they need to send more than 4 guys consistently and in a more creative way.
Hamas brings up a good point, though. I like that Bellichick is the only damn guy in the Parcells tree who seems to understand that the 2-gap 3-4 is outdated. So he moved to a 4-3, which was a good move. Putting Donta Hightower at OLB is a bit of a curious move. They essentially have 5 bigs, and Jerod Mayo isn't the fast kind of OLB they need to balance out that much big.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:30 PM   #104
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I give them props for getting to the AFC Championship game but that's because of Brady more than anything else. This team is a 6 win team once Brady hangs em up.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:31 PM   #105
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I give them props for getting to the AFC Championship game but that's because of Brady more than anything else. This team is a 6 win team once Brady hangs em up.
There are a lot of good coaches who aren't the same coach if you replace an elite QB with a bad one.

It all depends on a QB decision they haven't made yet. If they replace Brady with a good QB, they could be competitive regularly. If they don't, they probably won't be.
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