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Old 01-22-2013, 06:37 AM  
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There is no reason for a prolonged rebuilding process in the NFL
The 49ers proved it. From 2003 to 2010 they were 46-82. Last two seasons: 24-7-1 with obvious playoff wins and a SB appearance.

Hire the right people, stack your team in the right positions. let them roll.


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Old 01-22-2013, 08:42 AM   #31
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By the same token if you expect the best and get the worst you probably throw a hissy fit tantrum like Jim harbaugh.
Are you saying you wouldn't want Jim Harbaugh coaching your team?

Thanks for making my point for me.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:42 AM   #32
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Marty turned it around quickly using mostly the previous regime's draft picks as well as hitting on Derrick Thomas.

Marty's first few drafts were pretty horrible actually.
Oh i agree. Niners did the same thing basically right?

Most regimes that succeed quickly mostly do so using the previous regimes players. Maybe adding a key piece or two.

examples: DT in 89
Niners with Kaepernick and Aldon Smith
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:44 AM   #33
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Are you saying you wouldn't want Jim Harbaugh coaching your team?

Thanks for making my point for me.
Me personally? No I'm not a fan of Harbaugh, I'm sure you probably know why. I'll take my chances with AR.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:45 AM   #34
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No I'm not a fan of Harbaugh,
So you dont enjoy winning then?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:45 AM   #35
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So you dont enjoy winning then?
I do, but Harbaugh is not my favorite person ever. I guess you could say i'm not a go along to get along type of guy.

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Old 01-22-2013, 08:49 AM   #36
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I do, but Harbaugh is not my favorite person ever. I guess you could say i'm not a go along to get along type of guy.
UNderstood. My opinion is, i dont hang with these guys, they are not my drinking buddies. All i care about is winning.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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How many times have John Dorsey and Andy Reid let you down?
None yet but, the Chiefs on the otherhand, to many times to count.


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Old 01-22-2013, 09:02 AM   #39
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How many times have John Dorsey and Andy Reid let you down?
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Don't get your hopes up. We are missing several pieces and it usually takes time. Especially when you start a rookie QB. Last year was the exception imo.

Remember...

Dorsey said, "I am going to do everything within my God-given ability that we have as competitive as a team in the NFL as anyone in the NFL. I want to remind them. Please be patient. This is not a sprint. It is a marathon."

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Reid said, "Before I interviewed with the Chiefs, I looked at every snap from every [Kansas City] game this year. Special teams were average. The talent overall, it looked to me like they were transitioning from an older team to a younger one. And I thought, 'With a couple, three drafts, very good things can happen here."

Expect this to take some time. We are picking first for a reason and it's not just because of the QB.
Well of course they are going to say that. They sure aren't going to say we will be where we want to be next year!
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The 49ers proved it. From 2003 to 2010 they were 46-82. Last two seasons: 24-7-1 with obvious playoff wins and a SB appearance.
2003-2010 WAS their rebuilding process. They drafted most of the cornerstones of their franchise during that time.

The Colts or Seahawks are probably a better example. Even then, they both MAJORLY lucked out in the draft.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:38 AM   #42
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2003-2010 WAS their rebuilding process. They drafted most of the cornerstones of their franchise during that time.
So we can consider Chiefs 2007 to 2012 a rebuilding process then? We do have 5 Pro Bowlers
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So we can consider Chiefs 2007 to 2012 a rebuilding process then? We do have 5 Pro Bowlers
Yes. The problem is that you needed a coach and GM and you're still a couple drafts away most likely, but there's some talent to build around on your roster.
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So we can consider Chiefs 2007 to 2012 a rebuilding process then? We do have 5 Pro Bowlers
Don't forget Matt Cassel was a probowler also.
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