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Old 01-09-2013, 07:42 PM  
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #316
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MU is basically arguing now: "We vetted him. If anything comes out we didn't have a legit way to know of, we can't be held liable."

Of course, these were the same fans who argued the exact opposite on the Arthur case in 2008. Didn't matter the NCAA certified Arthur. Didn't matter that KU used the standard procedures with the league to enroll him. Nope. If ku does it, then it's just cheating. (Ignoring that ku did nothing in te Arthur case to even begin with)
I can understand both sides of this. It sucks that he was vetted through the NCAA and then improprieties were uncovered. But they just can't let him go unpunished, and the only way to punish will also hurt his current school. For me the bottom line is, if he gets a show-cause, MU has to show him the door.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:52 AM   #317
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MU is basically arguing now: "We vetted him. If anything comes out we didn't have a legit way to know of, we can't be held liable."



Of course, these were the same fans who argued the exact opposite on the Arthur case in 2008. Didn't matter the NCAA certified Arthur. Didn't matter that KU used the standard procedures with the league to enroll him. Nope. If ku does it, then it's just cheating. (Ignoring that ku did nothing in te Arthur case to even begin with)
I don't know about the Arthur case, but does the NCAA actually have the facts to back this all up. Also, heard that the lead investigator on this NCAA Miami matter was fired.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:12 AM   #318
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I can understand both sides of this. It sucks that he was vetted through the NCAA and then improprieties were uncovered. But they just can't let him go unpunished, and the only way to punish will also hurt his current school. For me the bottom line is, if he gets a show-cause, MU has to show him the door.
The NCAA couldn't exactly certify Arthur and then punish KU for relying on their certification. That one never had a chance.


In this case, Haith and Miami actually may have committed violations. Mizzou is out free if Haith is determined to have done what he's charged with, assuming they terminate him. If Haith is not deemed then Mizzou is fine and can keep him. In neither case does Mizzou get in trouble to my knowledge , only question is for Haith. Seems the NCAA is acting rationally in all instances here.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:50 PM   #319
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Will this be the winter of Missouri discontent?
MU basketball coach Frank Haith is expected to be charged with unethical conduct and failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance while he worked at the University of Miami, according to a report by CBSSports.comís Jeff Goodman.
If that happens, a multiple-year show cause penalty could result. A show-cause typically renders a coach unemployable in the college ranks. Former Tennessee basketball coach Bruce Pearl and Indiana basketball coach Kelvin Sampson were hit with multi-year show-cause penalties.
But time and location would create unique circumstances in Haithís case.
Heís no longer at the school where the trouble originated, and when Missouri hired him in April 2011, athletic director Mike Alden had checked with the NCAA for past discretions and was given a green light.
The Miami scandal, which focused on gifts provided by jailed booster Nevin Shapiro, was uncovered in reporting by Yahoo! Sports after Haith had moved to Missouri.
Does that mean Missouri could pay for the alleged misdeeds at another school?
If Haith remains the coach and is tagged with a show-cause order, itís likely he would be prohibited from recruiting. This gets to the purpose of the penalty ó to crack down on the rules violator.
Too often, coaches have skated away from trouble by jumping to another job, leaving the departed school to suffer the consequences of probation.
Haithís case would be different in another way: Previous show-cause penalties were applied after the coach was fired or resigned with the idea that it would make it difficult for a school to hire someone like Pearl, Sampson or former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel. Employ a coach with a show-cause order and you get his personal sanctions.
It probably would be up to Missouri to decide if it wants to keep Haith.
According to a source familiar with the investigation who is not authorized to speak publically, Missouri would be an observer during any hearing for Haith.
If the unethical conduct charges stick, and Missouri wanted to keep Haith, the school likely would have to explain that decision to the NCAA ó why it wants to employ a coach with such a charge ó and live with the handcuffs applied to Haith.
The school also would have the option to terminate Haith based on language in his contract.
This is something of uncharted waters, the source said.
But there are many steps to take in the process. Haith hasnít received a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA. In the Pearl case, the notice arrived on Feb. 23, 2011. The Vols reached the NCAA Tournament and lost in its first game. On March 21, Pearl was officially out as coach and Pearl received a three-year show-cause penalty from the NCAA in August.
Whatever the timeline in Missouriís case, the story will remain part of the programís narrative until itís resolved. The Tigers take a No. 22 national ranking in both polls into tonightís home game against South Carolina, and have hopes of competing at the top in their first season in the Southeastern Conference.
But Haithís situation will hang over the team for the rest of a season that started with promise.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/22...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #320
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Man that would be nuts if all of this lead to MU firing Haith....ironically the best thing to happen to MU bball in a decade after many people originally thought the hire was stupid. I really doubt anything comes of this. They've had what over a year now? They would have done something by now I would think.
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Anybody got the "haters gonna hate" gif with Frank Haith whistling and while walking?
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This is a very poorly coached team, and we have to hope like hell that Haith is hit with show cause so that we can rid ourselves of him as quickly as possible.
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Anyone still want to crow about how good of an offensive team this is?

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This is a very poorly coached team, and we have to hope like hell that Haith is hit with show cause so that we can rid ourselves of him as quickly as possible.
Sadly, this.

What will most likely happen: the NCAA will drag their feet on the investigation, putting a de facto pox on us anyway. We'll lose all our recruits from this year, then Haith will get nailed in enough time to **** us on next year's recruits as well.
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