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Old 01-23-2013, 11:25 AM  
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Red Light Camera Violation

Has anyone here ever tried to contest a red light camera violation? Any luck?

Just got one in the mail yesterday, and I remember when it happened. I was rolling up in the right-hand turn lane and the light was green. There was a wet patch (possibly slick) just past the line, so I slowed down and continued with the turn. But when I looked up the light had changed to red and I saw the flash. I didn't even see the yellow light because I had my eye on the possibly icy patch. It seems like they shorten the length of yellow lights at those intersections so that they can nab more people.

Anyway, it's not that big of a deal. I was just wondering if there's a chance of it getting thrown out if I show up to court and explain the circumstances.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:59 AM   #16
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Actually, its a stop light, not a stop sign. Stop signs don' give you a half second warning before they appear.
I was able to view the video of the incident online, and it was yellow for much longer than a half a second. Upon further review, I was clearly in the wrong. The light was yellow before I even entered the frame, and it turned red a split second before I hit the line.

So I'll take my lumps and pay the fine. It mentions that it's "an ordinance violation and no points will be assessed", so at least I don't have to worry about that.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:26 PM   #17
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Find out how long the light should be for yellow. There are a lot of lights not timed properly. See if it is within the time. The cameras are a farce and just revenue for a 3rd party.

You can also contest and state the road conditons and ic3.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:36 PM   #18
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Find out how long the light should be for yellow. There are a lot of lights not timed properly. See if it is within the time. The cameras are a farce and just revenue for a 3rd party.
Quite a few cities that have installed red light cameras have shortened the yellow time to increase revenues.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #19
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It seems like they shorten the length of yellow lights at those intersections so that they can nab more people.
Are you saying its more about generating revenue than safety? Iím shocked, SHOCKED I say.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:54 PM   #20
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These things are scams between the companies that run them and the local governments. The cameras should not be legal to begin with. Then they send them late so you also get charged a late fee and the company will claim they sent it to you before. It is then up to you to prove they did not send it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:11 PM   #21
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Contest it, they have no way to prove you were driving. Your wife/husband was driving the car and you can not be forced to testify against a spouse. Done deal.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:21 PM   #22
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These things are scams between the companies that run them and the local governments. The cameras should not be legal to begin with. Then they send them late so you also get charged a late fee and the company will claim they sent it to you before. It is then up to you to prove they did not send it.
Now thatís just crazy talk.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:26 PM   #23
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The last two times I got ticketed "I made a donation to the court" and they waived the ticket and accepted my donation.

It didn't go on my record. They don't let you do it all the time though~
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:31 PM   #24
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pay the ticket and then make sure you stop at the red light from now on.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:32 PM   #25
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These are only fines.

It's not an actual moving violation that goes on your record.

That is how they are in Ohio. My sister got one in the Dayton area 2 years ago.

She failed to pay it and got a notice from a collection agency. No record of this with the courts.
In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #26
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In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.
Do they send the letter as a certified letter? If they don't they can never prove you received the letter.
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #27
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In Missouri if you don't pay, they will issue a warrant.
Shitty operation.

What if someone is driving your car?
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:41 PM   #28
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Shitty operation.

What if someone is driving your car?
You get the privilege of ratting out who was driving so they can pay the fine.
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Contest it, they have no way to prove you were driving. Your wife/husband was driving the car and you can not be forced to testify against a spouse. Done deal.
Unless I'm mistaken, they issue the ticket to the registered owner of the vehicle. Same for if you loan your car out to a friend and he doesn't feed the meter. You're still responsible.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:45 PM   #30
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Unless I'm mistaken, they issue the ticket to the registered owner of the vehicle. Same for if you loan your car out to a friend and he doesn't feed the meter. You're still responsible.
Ahh, okay I can fix that. Register the vehicle under both the wife and husband names. Then they have to mail the ticket to either one of them or both. I thought the tickets had a spot to claim who was driving if it wasn't the owner. Then revert to the can't be forced to testify against a spouse.

Make no mistake, I am no laywer. This might not be sound legal advice, but it sounds like it has potential.
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