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# FIRST LAST POSITION HT WT SCHOOL
14 Landry Jones QB 6'4" 220 Oklahoma
3 EJ Manuel QB 6'4" 240 Florida State
8 Tyler Wilson QB 6'2" 218 Arkansas

23 Andre Ellington RB 5'9" 192 Clemson
22 Mike Gillislee RB 5'11" 210 Florida
32 Onterio McCalebb RB / RS 5'11" 173 Auburn
33 Stepfan Taylor RB 5'11" 215 Stanford

42 Tommy Bohanon FB 6'2" 245 Wake Forest

11 Cobi Hamilton WR 6'2" 209 Arkansas
12 Tavarres King WR 6'1" 200 Georgia
4 Quinton Patton WR 6'2" 195 Louisiana Tech
25 Ryan Swope WR 6'0" 206 Texas A&M
82 Conner Vernon WR 6'1" 200 Duke
2 Terrance Williams WR 6'2" 205 Baylor

88 Vance McDonald TE 6'4" 260 Rice
81 Mychal Rivera TE 6'3" 244 Tennessee
89 Michael Williams TE 6'5" 272 Alabama

72 Oday Aboushi OL 6'6" 310 Virginia
76 D.J. Fluker OL 6'6" 335 Alabama
64 Dalton Freeman OL 6'5" 285 Clemson
65 Garrett Gilkey OL 6'7" 320 Chadron State
69 Lane Johnson OL 6'6" 303 Oklahoma
73 Xavier Nixon OL 6'5" 314 Florida
57 Brian Schwenke OL 6'4" 300 Cal
71 Dallas Thomas OL 6'5" 310 Tennessee
74 J.C. Tretter OL 6'4" 300 Cornell
67 Larry Warford OL 6'3" 343 Kentucky

18 Dustin Hopkins PK 6'2" 190 Florida State

51 Carson Tinker LS 6'1" 224 Alabama

47 Ezekial Ansah DL 6'5" 270 Brigham Young
93 Everett Dawkins DL 6'2" 304 Florida State
89 Lavar Edwards DL 6'5" 258 LSU
97 Malliciah Goodman DL 6'4" 270 Clemson
46 Corey Grissom DL 6'2" 316 South Florida
54 Montori Hughes DL 6'4" 327 Tennessee-Martin
6 John Jenkins DL 6'3" 358 Georgia
83 Cornelius Washington DL 6'4" 268 Georgia

8 Jamie Collins LB 6'1" 228 Southern Miss
25 Zaviar Gooden LB 6'2" 230 Missouri
35 Nico Johnson LB 6'2" 245 Alabama
10 Sean Porter LB 6'2" 230 Texas A&M
44 Chase Thomas LB 6'4" 248 Stanford
1 Vince Williams LB 6'1" 250 Florida State

23 Robert Alford DB 6'0" 185 Southeastern La.
24 Marc Anthony DB 6'0" 200 Cal
29 Sanders Commings DB 6'2" 216 Georgia
37 Robert Lester DB 6'2" 212 Alabama
2 Leon McFadden DB 5'10" 190 San Diego State
18 Bacarri Rambo DB 6'0" 210 Georgia
22 B.W. Webb DB 5'10" 180 William & Mary
19 J.J. Wilcox DB 6'0" 215 Georgia Southern
26 Shawn Williams DB 6'1" 218 Georgia
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# FIRST LAST POSITION HT WT SCHOOL
7 Zac Dysert QB 6'3" 228 Miami OH
8 Mike Glennon QB 6'5" 232 North Carolina State
12 Ryan Nassib QB 6'2" 228 Syracuse

24 Kenjon Barner RB 5'11" 192 Oregon
23 Johnathan Franklin RB 5'10" 198 UCLA
28 Robbie Rouse RB 5'7" 190 Fresno State

40 Kyle Juszczyk FB 6'3" 240 Harvard

3 Aaron Dobson WR 6'2" 206 Marshall
1 Marquise Goodwin WR 5'9" 177 Texas
83 Chris Harper WR 6'1" 228 Kansas State
33 Aaron Mellette WR 6'4" 220 Elon
16 Denard Robinson WR 5'11" 197 Michigan
2 Markus Wheaton WR 6'0" 182 Oregon State

18 Jack Doyle TE 6'6" 253 Western Kentucky
44 Nick Kasa TE 6'6" 260 Colorado
82 Ryan Otten TE 6'5" 245 San Jose State

52 Braxston Cave OL 6'3" 304 Notre Dame
79 Eric Fisher OL 6'7" 305 Central Michigan
74 Kyle Long OL 6'7" 312 Oregon
70 Joe Madsen OL 6'4" 305 West Virginia
67 Justin Pugh OL 6'5" 297 Syracuse
76 David Quessenberry OL 6'6" 295 San Jose State
72 Hugh Thornton OL 6'4" 310 Illinois
58 Ricky Wagner OL 6'6" 318 Wisconsin
66 Brian Winters OL 6'5" 310 Kent State

13 Quinn Sharp PK 6'1" 205 Oklahoma State

45 Luke Ingram LS 6'6" 235 Hawaii

99 Michael Buchanan DL 6'5" 240 Illinois
96 Margus Hunt DL 6'7" 280 SMU
57 Datone Jones DL 6'4" 275 UCLA
80 Alex Okafor DL 6'5" 265 Texas
97 Jordan Hill DL 6'1" 292 Penn State
93 Kawann Short DL 6'3" 315 Purdue
66 Brandon Williams DL 6'3" 325 Missouri Southern
92 Sylvester Williams DL 6'3" 320 North Carolina

43 Steve Beauharnais LB 6'2" 230 Rutgers
44 Arthur Brown LB 6'1" 228 Kansas State
20 Khaseem Greene LB 6'1" 230 Rutgers
48 Kevin Reddick LB 6'2" 240 North Carolina
54 John Simon LB 6'2" 263 Ohio State
46 Trevardo Williams LB 6'2" 233 Connecticut

37 Jonathan Cyprien DB 6'0" 210 Florida International
17 Will Davis DB 6'0" 186 Utah State
27 Dwayne Gratz DB 6'0" 198 Connecticut
7 TJ McDonald DB 6'2" 205 USC
14 Jordan Poyer DB 5'11" 190 Oregon State
21 Jamar Taylor DB 5'11" 196 Boise State
16 Philip Thomas DB 6'1" 215 Fresno State
6 Desmond Trufant DB 6'0" 186 Washington
4 Duke Williams DB 6'1" 200 Nevada
15 Blidi Wreh-Wilson DB 6'1" 190 Connecticut

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Old 01-23-2013, 10:59 AM   #46
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Who the **** is Nick Cave from Notre Dame? I'm assuming that you mean Braxston Cave.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #47
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Who the **** is Nick Cave from Notre Dame? I'm assuming that you mean Braxston Cave.
I loved that dude in "Raising Arizona".
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:15 AM   #48
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Who the **** is Nick Cave from Notre Dame? I'm assuming that you mean Braxston Cave.


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BTW, Bobbozo, I have seen almost all of Wheaton's games and he is most definitely not a body catcher. I have no idea where you got that from.
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Obviously you can't see everything when you watch these practices but, they usually show some good stuff. There is no where to hide in the one on one drills and they are what I invest the most in. Keep in mind this only what I see and I'm no expert LOL


North Practice #1 (January 21, 2013)

Pre-practice Notes

Mayock and Charles Davis called out Geno Smith, Montee Ball, and Kenny Vaccaro for skipping the Senior Bowl. None of them are injured so he felt like they should have all been there. All of the other top senior QBs, RBs, and S were there. Mayock said Geno was mistaken if he thinks he is a top 10 lock right now. For what it's worth, Charles Davis concurred and said he sat next to a high ranking executive on his flight to Mobile who said the exact same thing.

Offense

Mike Glennon, QB, NC State looked great throwing the ball. He definately looked the best out the bunch. His throwing motion, footwork, and form are perfect. He throws tight spirals. He can throw a 30 yard pass across the field from the back hash on a dime in drills. He had the best control of the huddle and he was also the tallest guy in the huddle (including the o-linemen). He is sneaky elusive like in the pocket and looks almost exactly like Flacco when he is playing. When he is just walking around and getting a cup of water, he looks really awkward. He makes me think of Big Bird and doesn't look like an athlete at all. The thing is that he's really inconsistant. He overthrew a wide open WR by like ten yards and it was picked. He seems like he's kind of a spaz back there and he panics a little. He seemed very stressed out and maybe he just had the first day jitters. Mayock thinks he's a combination of Joe Flacco and Ryan Mallet. When I just watch him in the pocket, I agree with that but, when I watch where the ball goes, he's not even close to those guys. He's not calm like Flacco and you can see it when you watch his passes. It seems like this would be hard to fix. Again, maybe he was just nervous.

Mayock compared Nassib, QB, Syracuse to Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins. Said he was more athletic than you would think. He said he expects his stock to rise in the next few months. They didn't show much of him or Dysert, QB, Miami of Ohio. He did commend both of them for playing well in the big games. He said USC was to big of a game for Syracuse but, it wasn't for Nassib. Said he stood in there and played tough. He said the same thing about Dysert vs. Ohio State. Hopefully they will show more of them in the other practices...

Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State seemed to catch evrything with his body. He can get open and runs great routes but, I worry about the catching.

Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall is big at 6'2" and kind of looks like Bowe out there. He's not the fastest guy in the world but he caught the ball with his hands and ran good routes.

Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State looks like a RB playing WR. He's like 6'1 228 lbs. Like Wheaton, he caught the ball with his body and ran kind of sloppy routes.

Maquize Goodwin, WR, Texas is 5'9" and weighs 177 lbs. I guess he ran track for the Olympic team and finished 10th in his event. He is blazing fast and I mean he has elite speed. He out ran one of Glennon's passes and Glennon has a really strong arm. He was quick off the line and gets open consistantly on go routes. He caught the ball confidently with his hands. He might be toast if a CB got their hands on him but, that didn't happen. I hope to see him as a returner and I have a feeling he could be a stud there. He reminds me of Jerome Lewis that used to play for the Ravens. He might be able to play a part time slot role like TY Hilton does for Indy...

I didn't see Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon or Denard Robinson, WR/QB, Michigan at all.

Honestly, I was more impressed with some of the WRs I watched in the East-West Shrine Game than this bunch.

Kyle Long, OT, Oregon stand 6'7 and weighs 312 lbs. He's a monster and is Howie Long's son. He really struggled against everyone at OT. When they moved him to guard, he was great. He can get up quick for such a big guy. He just doesn't have the best feet. I think he will definately be a guard in the pros.

Hugh Thorton, OG, Illinois had a bad day. He got whipped every time they showed him.

Robbie Rouse, RB, Fresno State stands 5'7" and weighs 195 lbs. He's a rock and looks like a minature version of MJD if you can imagine that. He is quick, agile, and cuts extremely well. He also excels at catching balls out the backfield. I liked him. He's a lot like Utah State running back Kerwin Williams who played at the East-West Shrine Game. It's close but, I like Williams a little better because he can block.

They didn't show much of the TEs...




Defense

John Simon, MLB, Ohio State was really the only LBer that they showed. He has a high motor, is a tough guy, and a solid tackler. He struggles in coverage and would probably be about like Belcher was. He's strong as hell and had really good push in one on one drills with the o-linemen. He kind of reminds me of Zach Thomas. He is a little taller than Thomas but he plays just like him. He would fit our system perfectly and has some potential imo.

Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State is a smaller type of corner at 5'11" and 196 lbs. He's a scrappy little guy and I liked that. He seems to play a little too far off of receivers and his back peddle wasn't clean. His feet are a big red flag imo. He doesn't have fast feet. Maybe he just had a bad day but he struggled out there.

Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State is a smaller guy like Taylor. Mayock was high on this guy and liked him as a playmaker. He held on every play and I wasn't impressed. He would have been penalized if it were a game.


Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington played with a lot of swagger. He definately has a mouth. He looks like a slightly taller version of Terrance Newman out there. He plays very fast and had really tight coverage. Like Poyer, he had his hands all over people which made me a little nervous. He would have been called for pass interference. I think he will come around and I really liked him. He really stood out in a good way. He's very fast and we might be able to get him like we got Flowers in the second round. IF, he doesn't sneak into the first.

Note that Mayock said all of these guys were best when giving a push at the line. They didn't do any of that in the practice.

Phillp , S, Fresno State is a big boy. He stands 6'1 and weighs 215 lbs. but, he looks and plays bigger than that imo. I think he could play either safety position. He struggled a little in man coverage and wasn't as quick as I would have liked but, he is a safety after all. He does seem to have good straight line speed but, he struggled with cuts. He looks like he could knock the shit out of people but, we'll see. I liked him. As a side note, Mayock talked about TJ McDonald's dad coaching him at Fresno State as the secondary coach. I thought that was interesting.

Duke Williams, S, Nevada really got exposed. He looks like a big safety but, he just can't seem to get his head around and would have been called for pass interference a couple of times. He struggled bigtime in man coverage against the running backs.

Alex Okafor, DE, Texas was a stud. He really looked good on the one on one drills and has a high motor.

Datone Jones, DE, UCLA was the fastest DE of the bunch. He is extremely fast off the line and was the best speed rusher. He is 6'4" and weighs 275 lbs. He looks like a poor man's JPP.

Kewann Short, DT, Purdue looked really good. He had a high motor and probably had the most push out of everyone. He is really strong and the first round seems possible. I bet he could play DE in the 3-4.

Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern had a great day. He is almost an exact clone of Short. He's also strong and gets a lot of push. He's a bit raw but, will be a baller imo.

The Good

Eric Fischer, OT, Central Michigan weighs 307 lbs. and stands 6'7". He was a man among boys. The only comparison I think of is the year Von Miller went to the Senior Bowl. It was that obvious. Mayock compared him to Joe Staley but, I think he's better. He had the best footwork I have seen in a prospect in years and his form was impeccable. He completely dominated everyone. He is so clean looking out there that it's crazy. He reminds me of Tony Boselli. He's a top 10 lock imo.

The Bad

I liked Margus Hunt, DE, SMU going into this thing but, let me tell you, he was horrible. He looks like a perfect fit for our defense but, he can't beat one blocker let alone occupy two. He was really just out of his league. You could tell he hasn't played long and he was pancaked on one on one drills twice.... it was that bad...

Nick Cave, C, Notre Dame was another guy I really liked going into this. He was the worst o-linemen by a mile. He only played center and had no push at all. He got knocked on his back twice. Short and Williams just embarrassed him.

Maybe they will do better as the week goes on...

Suprise Players

David Quessenberry, C/G, San Jose State is big at 6'6" 295 lbs. He was kicking ass all day at both center and guard. He pancaked Hunt, Jones, and Buchanan. This guy is the real deal and he held his own against everyone. His stock went up for sure.

Brian Winter, OT, Kent State stands 6'5" and weighs 310 lbs. He was my favorite player of the day. He is mean, nasty, and he has a bad attitude. He just let it all hang out and he didn't seem to care about making friends. He ripped William's helmet off and absolutely owned him. He stood his ground with everyone and didn't seem to give a shit what the scouts thought about him. He looks like he hasn't shaved in a week and is just an old school player. He reminds me of John Runyan. He's got a serious mean streak and I love this guy. I think Reid will too. His stock went way up imo.

Plays of the Day

TJ McDonald, S, USC had a really nice pick. He covered a lot of ground and made a diving pick off of the pass that Glennon overthrew. That's really the only time I saw him. Maybe we will see more of him tomorrow. Mayock noted that his dad is the former 49er Tim McDonald so he comes from good stock. There are a ton of former players kids in this class. It's really pretty crazy.

Duke Williams, S, Nevada got smoked by Kyle Juszczyck, FB, Harvard on a one on one coverage drill. he got mad and chased him down and punched the ball out of his hands from behind causing a fumble on the 2 yard line. LOL

I'll try and post another report tommorrow.
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One guy that I've been really impressed with Datone Jones out of UCLA. He's been simply owning any of the linemen he's been facing in practice and has an extremely quick first step.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/1/...t-datone-jones

The problem is that the Chiefs would have to take him with their 2nd (assuming he makes it past Baltimore or New England) and the Chiefs probably have bigger needs at that point than a pass rushing DE (though they have jack and shit in the department currently).
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:31 PM   #52
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One guy that I've been really impressed with Datone Jones out of UCLA. He's been simply owning any of the linemen he's been facing in practice and has an extremely quick first step.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/1/...t-datone-jones

The problem is that the Chiefs would have to take him with their 2nd (assuming he makes it past Baltimore or New England) and the Chiefs probably have bigger needs at that point than a pass rushing DE (though they have jack and shit in the department currently).
Is he big enough to play the 3/5tech?
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Plus everyone is saying he should be able to add 10 - 20 pounds of muscle.
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There's so much DL talent early. I think we're going to take one in the 2nd round. Sylvester Williams is a guy I would love at 34.
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Have they listed his arm length per chance?
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. Would be crazy if he, Floyd, Rhodes, and Austin were all still on the board when we pick at 34.
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