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Old 01-23-2013, 02:54 PM  
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:20 AM   #46
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i think people are upset because it appears that help was purposely not sent to those people in their time of need, when it was readily available. budget or not, forces were available to help them, right? now, why didn't that happen? make chai not war bro
Yes, there were assets on hand that could have assisted and quite possibly have ended the conflict without losing the ambassador.
Why werenít they sent in? Election year and every politician that knew what was going on feared another Black Hawk Down. Really though, how do they know for sure they wouldnít have been sending those assets into an ambush? They didnít and itís a real possibility when you consider the embassy was under sustained, coordinated fire. Thatís why it was obvious from the first shot fired that this wasnít just some unruly mob turned violent, this was a planned attack.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:35 AM   #47
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Yes, there were assets on hand that could have assisted and quite possibly have ended the conflict without losing the ambassador.
Why weren’t they sent in? Election year and every politician that knew what was going on feared another Black Hawk Down. Really though, how do they know for sure they wouldn’t have been sending those assets into an ambush? They didn’t and it’s a real possibility when you consider the embassy was under sustained, coordinated fire. That’s why it was obvious from the first shot fired that this wasn’t just some unruly mob turned violent, this was a planned attack.
The investigation found that the military didn't have assets close enough by to respond in a timely matter. But the CIA did and after Hillary testified yesterday that has become a little bit clearer.

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During the Senate committee hearing, Clinton confirmed the CIA’s presence in Benghazi when she recounted the actions she took on Sept. 11th and 12th. Clinton revealed that then-CIA Director David Petraeus was among the first people she contacted shortly after receiving news about the attack against the U.S. consulate compound.

“I spoke with former CIA Director Petraeus to confer and coordinate, given the presence of his facility, which of course was not well-known but was something that we knew and wanted to make sure we were closely latched up together,” said Clinton.

Clinton’s remarks during the House committee hearing also confirmed the shared security arrangements between the CIA-run Annex and the Benghazi consulate. Prior news reports have indicated that the CIA would provide additional security for the consulate and suggested that arrangement was ostensibly one of the reasons why the State Department decided not to grant the consulate’s request for more security.

“The number of diplomatic security personnel requested in the cables was 5. There were 5 there that night with [Ambassador Chris Stevens], plus there was a mutual understanding with the Annex that had a much more heavily armed presence because of the work that they were doing in the region,” said Clinton.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:38 AM   #48
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The president along with a few others opened their mouths and spewed a bunch of bullshit before learning the facts.

Why is that so hard to understand?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:53 AM   #49
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:20 AM   #50
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The president along with a few others opened their mouths and spewed a bunch of bullshit before learning the facts.

Why is that so hard to understand?
They knew the facts within an hour of the first shot being fire.
It was a 7 hour battle.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:25 AM   #51
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They knew the facts within an hour of the first shot being fire.
It was a 7 hour battle.
They lied their asses off. Everyone knows it, but what difference does it make? We can't do anything about it because they get away with this shit every single day.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #52
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They lied their asses off. Everyone knows it, but what difference does it make? We can't do anything about it because they get away with this shit every single day.
/Billary

Other than being a glaring example of partisan hypocrisy Iím with you.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:34 AM   #53
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/Billary

Other than being a glaring example of partisan hypocrisy Iím with you.
I had to plug that in.


Glenn Beck played actual audio of all of the liars blaming "The video" and other bullshit even though they knew exactly what was going on.

I love how Hillary said,"What difference does it make" how this happened, but in the next few sentences she says something like,"But we need to find out how this happened and how to prevent it!


That's unbelieable! She is so full of shit.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #54
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Here's the difference it makes:

The motives behind the attacks factor into our foreign policy and response in that region. Congress wanting to know if the State department (run by Mrs. Clinton) is competent enough to recognize who was responsible and if she took appropriate action very much makes a difference.

To those who claim that the right is exploiting this for political gain, I ask the following:

If the White House and the State Dept. knew Al Queda was involved from the beginning, then what was the month-long narrative about a movie-induced riot if not politically motivated?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:51 AM   #55
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He echoes quite a few of my thoughts point for point.
I'm way late to the party, but I like Ron & Rand Paul quite a bit. I really like Ron. I haven't researched Rand very much yet. But it baffles me how the media seemed to hammer home that Ron Paul is a "nut" for his ideas during his Presidential campaign. His economic policy makes a lot of sense. He knows what is going to happen if shit doesn't change. But then they tried to scare everyone by saying "his foreign policy! We'll for sure get nuked!" Idiots.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #56
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Wow, that's pretty telling.

As for myself, I'm not outraged at any of them. We need to be vigilant and make sure we do the best to protect our diplomats abroad, but they're at risk in these high risk countries, it's a simple as that.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #57
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The level of butthurt on this forum if Hillary wins the presidency in 2016 will be unfathomable.

I don't think she'll run, and if she runs I doubt she'll win. Age, health scare, etc. etc.

I just find it hard to believe that a 70 year old woman is going to come out victorious. Then again, stranger things have happened...
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:44 AM   #58
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So did Taco John and I.

I will be absolutely shocked if Hillary isn't the nominee in 2016. I think this her time and most people are meh on Biden.

If the 2016 Democratic race comes down to Biden vs. Hillary, I think the Republicans have a good shot at winning in 2016....
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:48 AM   #59
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If the 2016 Democratic race comes down to Biden vs. Hillary, I think the Republicans have a good shot at winning in 2016....
The Republican Party is broken. See: 51% popular vote for Obama.
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They knew the facts within an hour of the first shot being fire.
It was a 7 hour battle.

I haven't been following the Benghazi issue especially closely. Here's the Pentagon's timeline. Where are the assets that weren't used that could've/should've been used?


http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/world/...ine/index.html
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