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NM Republicans introducing legislation to criminalize rape victims who abort the baby

This is ****ing insanity.

http://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/13%2...se/HB0206.html

HOUSE BILL 206

51st legislature - STATE OF NEW MEXICO - first session, 2013

INTRODUCED BY

Cathrynn N. Brown











AN ACT

RELATING TO CRIMINAL LAW; SPECIFYING PROCURING OF AN ABORTION AS TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE IN CASES OF CRIMINAL SEXUAL PENETRATION OR INCEST.



BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO:

SECTION 1. Section 30-22-5 NMSA 1978 (being Laws 1963, Chapter 303, Section 22-5, as amended) is amended to read:

"30-22-5. TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.--

A. Tampering with evidence consists of destroying, changing, hiding, placing or fabricating any physical evidence with intent to prevent the apprehension, prosecution or conviction of any person or to throw suspicion of the commission of a crime upon another.

B. Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime.

[B.] C. Whoever commits tampering with evidence shall be punished as follows:

(1) if the highest crime for which tampering with evidence is committed is a capital or first degree felony or a second degree felony, the person committing tampering with evidence is guilty of a third degree felony;

(2) if the highest crime for which tampering with evidence is committed is a third degree felony or a fourth degree felony, the person committing tampering with evidence is guilty of a fourth degree felony;

(3) if the highest crime for which tampering with evidence is committed is a misdemeanor or a petty misdemeanor, the person committing tampering with evidence is guilty of a petty misdemeanor; and

(4) if the highest crime for which tampering with evidence is committed is indeterminate, the person committing tampering with evidence is guilty of a fourth degree felony."

SECTION 2. EFFECTIVE DATE.--The effective date of the provisions of this act is July 1, 2013.











I discovered this across my Facebook feed, and will be happy to throw in the article linked there that got me looking into this.

http://www.politicususa.com/republic...ncubators.html


Republicans Turn Victims of Rape and Incest into Felons and Forced Incubators

By: Sarah JonesJan. 24th, 2013more from Sarah Jones

In New Mexico yesterday, Republicans treated us to “Exhibit A” legislation, introduced as House Bill 206. It criminalizes the ending of a pregnancy resulting from rape or incest in some cases, declaring the fetus to be evidence in a criminal trial.

I’ve been pointing out for a while now that House Republicans were going out of their way to give rapists more access to victims (via GOP’s version of the Violence Against Women Act) and forcing a rape victim to carry her rapist’s baby to term, while also granting the rapist access to the child, inadvertently (?) incentivizing rape. Republicans have also been working on redefining rape and trying to pass laws so that victims would be renamed “accusers”. But now, they have finally found a way to just come out and say it.

If you get raped or molested, you are the criminal. If you don’t carry the fetus to term, you may face up to three years in prison.

New Mexico Republicans got one of their token females, Republican State Representative Cathrynn Brown, to introduce HB206 in the New Mexico Legislature — new legislation that would force a rape victim to carry the fetus to term in order to preserve evidence (since when do Republicans care about rape evidence?).

The bill reads, “Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result or criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime.”

The only good news I can potentially see here is that Republicans are claiming to care about rape evidence, and so in a world in which their values were consistent, House Republicans would pass the new bipartisan Senate version of the Violence Against Women Act. The new verion of the VAWA seeks to address the epidemic of untested rape kits. If Republicans want evidence, a rape kit might be a bit easier than forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term.



But if they really wanted evidence in order to prosecute rape, then they wouldn’t need to force a woman to carry a rapist’s fetus to term — they could simply test the aborted fetus, or better yet, process the rape kit. While science and the female body are proving to be too complicated for your modern day GOP, this bill isn’t about evidence. This is about finally finding a way to criminalize victims of rape and incest, so as to protect the perpetrators of those crimes, as all patriarchal systems do (Penn State, the Catholic Church, the Stuebenville football culture, etc). Money and power versus the rape/incest victim.

How many women will be reporting a rape if they know they’ll be forced to carry the fetus to term? Even less than report it right now.

“In addition to being blatantly un-Constitutional, the bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” says Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive non-profit opposing the bill. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.”

Incubators of evidence and felons? It’s called punishment for reporting a rape.

While hopefully this bill has little chance of passing, it’s important in the sense that it reveals the intentions behind Republican policies relating to women. Taken in context with their refusal to pass the Violence Against Women Act and their many egregious comments about rape and rape victims, it appears as if the intention behind this bill is to protect rapists by inhibiting the reporting of rape.
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That said, I do have plenty of left in me because I do feel like people are born into ****ed situations and shouldn't be forced to starve to death because they had parents who didn't want them, teachers who didn't give a ****, and thugs that could use them. No. If there's a way we can give those folks a hand, I'm in. Even if they're assholes because no one ever taught them any better. I'm optimistic by nature. I believe they have the chance to change and become productive members of society. They only have to encounter ONE person that will care enough to try and correct the thinking.
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Come on Pete. This forum is full of absurdity every day. Everyone just likes to pick their poison, and ignore their desease. That goes for most everyone in here that are hardcore party line folks.
Let me clarify, I don't think anyone here would support this position seriously and therefore it's a non-starter for a convo
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And there's my political rant. I'll be here all week. Sorry to those I've offended, particularly my wife who is raging pissed at me right now because I got so involved with this that she is now being ignored. Agree with me, or disagree with me I am PASSIONATE about the state we're in, and what needs to be done. Have a great night! See you all tomorrow. Unless I get the silent treatment, in which case I'll be in the pictures forum jerking off to Kate Upton. Hasta!
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That said, I do have plenty of left in me because I do feel like people are born into ****ed situations and shouldn't be forced to starve to death because they had parents who didn't want them, teachers who didn't give a ****, and thugs that could use them. No. If there's a way we can give those folks a hand, I'm in. Even if they're assholes because no one ever taught them any better. I'm optimistic by nature. I believe they have the chance to change and become productive members of society. They only have to encounter ONE person that will care enough to try and correct the thinking.
We're running out of thinkers. And one party in particular is staking a claim on the leftovers.
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Honestly, I think corporatism has exploited capitalism, and gotten us where we are. There are 1500 Newspapers, 1100 Magazines, 9000 Radio Stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 Publishers ALL OWNED by only 3 corporations. There's a good example. There are plenty more, but that's our damned media. There's never an agenda there? Bullshit.

We need to get corporate dollars out of our politics in the worst way. Is that the solution? I don't know. But at least it's a damned idea. I haven't seen many of those lately, because frankly corporations are making record profits, and we're all still getting shit on. Don't expect those bought politicians to give a damn. They're going to eat steak and keep feeding the rest of us tablespoons of bullshit.

I remember growing up that it was a great idea that anyone could become President someday.

Not anymore.

A normal person has no shot at being President. They would just get destroyed by the big money and media on the way up.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. I would be 100% behind equal time and "advertising" rules, but it will never happen due to the corps that own said media outlets.
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I remember growing up that it was a great idea that anyone could become President someday.

Not anymore.

A normal person has no shot at being President. They would just get destroyed by the big money and media on the way up.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. I would be 100% behind equal time and "advertising" rules, but it will never happen due to the corps that own said media outlets.
A normal person is president right now.
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Well, that's supposed to be the story. I can't say that I've seen any hard evidence that the story is true, come to think of it, but I haven't seen anything that disproves it either.
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I remember growing up that it was a great idea that anyone could become President someday.

Not anymore.

A normal person has no shot at being President. They would just get destroyed by the big money and media on the way up.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. I would be 100% behind equal time and "advertising" rules, but it will never happen due to the corps that own said media outlets.
I'd agree that some decent people are probably turned off by the ordeal necessary to be a serious contender for president.

But what's a normal person? If by normal you mean not being born rich and/or well-connected, Clinton and Obama weren't.
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I'd agree that some decent people are probably turned off by the ordeal necessary to be a serious contender for president.

But what's a normal person? If by normal you mean not being born rich and/or well-connected, Clinton and Obama weren't.
Nor was Ronald Reagan.
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I'd agree that some decent people are probably turned off by the ordeal necessary to be a serious contender for president.

But what's a normal person? If by normal you mean not being born rich and/or well-connected, Clinton and Obama weren't.
The media elected Obama. Not his accomplishments. Which I think was his point.
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The media elected Obama. Not his accomplishments. Which I think was his point.
Even if that's true, the media elected a normal guy with no accomplishments. Which I think goes against his point.

Mostly. Kind of. In a way.
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The media elected Obama. Not his accomplishments. Which I think was his point.
A meaningless, empty-headed response. I don't think that was his point, but he can answer that.
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