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Old 01-23-2013, 02:54 PM  
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:17 PM   #76
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That chicky sitting behind Rand Paul looks pretty...smart.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:53 PM   #77
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Yeah, State admitted that it was an intentional lie. They said that they were trying not to give away their understanding of the situation. I found it disgusting as the entire incident played out like a horrible "comedy of errors" from the senior people in our government.
No kidding and you have shitbags here claiming Paul was out of line for saying what should have been said~
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:59 PM   #78
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The logical follow-up questions to that poster are:

Did the ambassadors of those embassys give numerous requests for added security and were denied?

Did the Bush White House watch it live and neglect to send aid?

Did the Bush White House try to pass it off as a reaction to some movie?

Attacks against American embassys and forts not new, but negligence in the State Department should not be permitted. How many hearings took place after these attacks?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:26 PM   #79
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The logical follow-up questions to that poster are:

Did the ambassadors of those embassys give numerous requests for added security and were denied?

Did the Bush White House watch it live and neglect to send aid?

Did the Bush White House try to pass it off as a reaction to some movie?

Attacks against American embassys and forts not new, but negligence in the State Department should not be permitted. How many hearings took place after these attacks?
The shitbags are aware of this, they just don't care. Their American Idol won the election it is circle jerk time~
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:16 PM   #80
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The shitbags are aware of this, they just don't care. Their American Idol won the election it is circle jerk time~
it seems like our politicians have been playing amateur hour for so many years. the more we fight against each other, the worse off we are. they use the division to step on us and ascend
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #81
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it seems like our politicians have been playing amateur hour for so many years. the more we fight against each other, the worse off we are. they use the division to step on us and ascend
I cannot argue with this~
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:56 AM   #82
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Just to be clear, Clinton lied and is still lying. When asked about the claim that the attack was sparked by a protest over a video, she responded, “I did not say . . . that it was about the video for Libya.”

That’s simply untrue. When she stood by the caskets of the four Americans killed in Libya, she directly blamed an “awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” Afterward, she reportedly told the father of Tyrone Woods, the former Navy SEAL who was killed in the attack, “We will make sure the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.” Why tell the man that if the video had nothing to do with it?

Moreover, Clinton was part of an administration that crafted an entire PR strategy to blame these attacks on “an awful Internet video.” White House press secretary Jay Carney was unequivocal: This was a “response to a video, a film we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting.” In his address to the United Nations, President Obama mentioned the video six times but al-Qaeda once. When he appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman, he blamed the video directly. U.N. ambassador Susan Rice went on five Sunday shows blaming the video. All of this happened when they already knew it was not true on the day of the attack, and even the president of Libya had publicly called the protest explanation ridiculous.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...onah-goldberg#

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Barry Bonds lies to congress under oath and he's facing a mandatory prison sentence.

Hillary "the chin" Gigante, not.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:00 AM   #83
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Just to be clear, Clinton lied and is still lying. When asked about the claim that the attack was sparked by a protest over a video, she responded, “I did not say . . . that it was about the video for Libya.”

That’s simply untrue. When she stood by the caskets of the four Americans killed in Libya, she directly blamed an “awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” Afterward, she reportedly told the father of Tyrone Woods, the former Navy SEAL who was killed in the attack, “We will make sure the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.” Why tell the man that if the video had nothing to do with it?

Moreover, Clinton was part of an administration that crafted an entire PR strategy to blame these attacks on “an awful Internet video.” White House press secretary Jay Carney was unequivocal: This was a “response to a video, a film we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting.” In his address to the United Nations, President Obama mentioned the video six times but al-Qaeda once. When he appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman, he blamed the video directly. U.N. ambassador Susan Rice went on five Sunday shows blaming the video. All of this happened when they already knew it was not true on the day of the attack, and even the president of Libya had publicly called the protest explanation ridiculous.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...onah-goldberg#

So...

Barry Bonds lies to congress under oath and he's facing a mandatory prison sentence.

Hillary "the chin" Gigante, not.
The best, and most telling, line in that OpEd:

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Remember, not all lies are equally harmful. In this case, the U.S. government responded to the murder of four Americans by treating our constitutional rights as part of the problem
This administration is utterly despicable.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:07 AM   #84
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This administration is utterly despicable.
Obama is a POS.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:42 AM   #85
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If the 2016 Democratic race comes down to Biden vs. Hillary, I think the Republicans have a good shot at winning in 2016....
I wouldn't mind seeing a moderate Republican win in 2016. The Republican base is pretty much losing their cookies already - talking about assault rifles and canned goods. If Hillary got elected, I worry about the fallout from heretofore unseen levels of butthurt that would ensue. I got my Obamacare, that was the biggie for me.

As long as we don't get a Bible thumper/teabagger, or idiot neocon in there – I can live with it. The Republican base is so clueless, a moderate Republican could do the exact same thing centrist Democrat would we do and they'd be fine with it as long as Fox decided not to make a big deal about it. They'd be fine with 95% of everything Obama has done – if it had been done by a Republican.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:43 AM   #86
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Obama is a POS.
Exhibit A of clueless republican base.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:45 AM   #87
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Exhibit A of clueless republican base.
Shut up idiot.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:33 PM   #88
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The Republican base is so clueless, a moderate Republican could do the exact same thing centrist Democrat would we do and they'd be fine with it as long as Fox decided not to make a big deal about it. They'd be fine with 95% of everything Obama has done – if it had been done by a Republican.
I tend to agree with you but believe it cuts both ways. Of all the civil and international issues that the Left demonized Bush for, Obama has continued or expanded the overwhelming majority of them but now it is not a problem.
Likewise not a shit was given by the majority of the right when Bush was in office about overspeanding.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:32 PM   #89
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Rand Paul says Clinton's outburst a 'valid point'

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Washington (CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul - the Kentucky conservative who told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Wednesday he would have fired her for her response to the Benghazi attacks if he was president - acknowledged later the top diplomat had made a valid point when she angrily denounced Republicans focused on the administration's response to the attack.

Clinton was responding to Sen. Ron Johnson, a tea party backed Wisconsin Republican, who questioned Clinton about what he described as members of the administration "purposely misleading" the American people

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans," Clinton shot back. "Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided they'd go kill some Americans?"

Her fists shaking, she continued: "What difference, at this point, does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator."

Paul, who like Johnson was backed by the tea party during his bid for Senate in 2010, said after the hearings concluded that Clinton made a legitimate case.

"I think she has a little bit of a valid point," he said on CNN's "The Situation Room." "It's not so important whether or not it was a movie or what it was. I think what's important, though, in going forward is it not happen again."

The way to ensure that is to give the Defense Department responsibility for protecting American embassy staff in dangerous zones, Paul said, arguing places like Libya were too hazardous for standard diplomatic security personnel.

"I don't think we can treat it like an embassy in Paris," he said, adding that his proposed budget increased funding for U.S. marines who provide embassy security.

Paul, who like Clinton is a potential candidate for president in 2016, also explained his statement that the September 11, 2012 attack at the diplomatic post in Benghazi was "the worst tragedy since 9/11," making clear on CNN that he was referring to "diplomatic and security and intelligence" tragedies. He said his statement excluded the intelligence failure that led to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

"You can't compare the beginning of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the tragedy of those wars is of a different scale and I guess we're talking more about a diplomatic mission than we are talking about the beginning of the war," Paul said, adding he opposed the war in Iraq in 2003.
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"With all due respect, the fact is, we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."
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