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Old 01-25-2013, 05:47 PM  
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Greatest needs for the Chiefs in the draft...

What would you guys say is the main needs and possible order of drafting for positions in this upcoming draft for KC?

QB, S, CB, ILB, WR, DE, etc. What else could be position of needs and where at in the draft do you see them coming?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:39 PM   #46
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1) QB
2) WR
3) CB (2 and 3 are interchangeable)
4) S
5) ILB
6) TE
7) DE (Yes, sadly)
8)OLB (We need three pass rushers; we have two
9) C (Hudson is still a big ?)
10) RB

God **** this team has so many ****ing holes. Mother**** you, Pioli.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:43 PM   #47
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1) QB
2) WR
3) CB (2 and 3 are interchangeable)
4) S
5) ILB
6) TE
7) DE (Yes, sadly)
8)OLB (We need three pass rushers; we have two
9) C (Hudson is still a big ?)
10) RB

God **** this team has so many ****ing holes. Mother**** you, *****.
Do you say this assuming Bowe is gone, or would that actually make WR the clear 2 if we didn't resign him?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:47 PM   #48
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:50 PM   #49
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Do you say this assuming Bowe is gone, or would that actually make WR the clear 2 if we didn't resign him?
I made that list assuming Bowe would be signed. Jon Baldwin is ****ing worthless and Breaston may be a Section 8. It's probably not a coincidence that the teams left standing have multiple legitimate receiving threats. Who do the Chiefs have other than Bowe?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:50 PM   #50
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I don't really think receiver is a top need, but I could be wrong. Bowe and Breaston are legit starters in this league and guys like Baldwin, Wylie and McCluster are still developing. With an upgrade from Cassel and Quinn to Geno, it's possible that we have enough talent there to make some noise.

We need a starting inside backer and corner, though and at least one defensive line spot should be open...as we jettison two top five picks from the DL rotation.

I'd make an easy argument that safety needs upgraded more than receiver, too.

QB
CB
S
ILB
DE

Those are my top 5, anyway.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:59 PM   #51
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Player Needs – Why/Who to replace and using Joe Landers charts to determine the best chance of success with 2013 draft.


Rank ---POS---- Player(s) to Replace---------------How
1. QB – Matt Cassel/Brady Quinn – 1st rd and 6th rd draft – 36% and 10%
1st - (Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Michael Glennon)
6th - (Matt Scott, Brad Sorenson, Jordan Rodgers)


2. CB - Stanford Routt/Travis Daniels/Neiko Thorpe – 2nd rd draft – 21%
(Desmond Trufant, Johnathan Banks, Jordan Poyer, Logan Ryan, Jamar Taylor, David Amerson)


3. ILB – Jovan Belcher/Brandon Siler – 3rd rd draft – 17%
3rd – (Jon Bostic, Nico Johnson, Kiko Alonso)

4. C/G – Ryan Lilja/Russ Hochstein/Bryan Mattison/Rich Ranglin – 3rd rd comp draft - 13%
3rd comp – (Brian Winters, Alvin Bailey, Khaled Holmes, Brian Schwenke, David Quessenberry, and Terron Armstead)

5. DE – Glenn Dorsey/Ropati Pitoitua/Shaun Smith/Tyson Jackson ($$$) – 4th rd draft – 11%
4th – (William Gholston, Devin Taylor, Joe Kruger, Jordan Hill, Bennie Logan, and Everett Dawkins)


6. S – General Upgrade Needed – free agent
Free Agent (Jairus Byrd, William Moore, Louis Delmas, Pat Chung, and LaRon Landry)

7. TE – Kevin Boss/Jake O’Connell/Martin Rucker – 5th rd draft – 11% or free agent
5th – (Vance McDonald, Gavin Escobar, Michael Williams, and Nick Kasa)
Free Agents - (Jared Cook, Fred Davis, Dustin Keller)

8. WR – Dwayne Bowe – Re-sign – free agent if unable to sign Bowe.
Free Agents (Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, Mike Wallace, and Brian Hartline)


9. OT – Brandon Albert – Re-sign – free agent if unable to sign Albert.
Free Agents ( Andre Smith, Ryan Clady, Gosder Cherilus, Jake Long, and Phil Loadholt)


10. RB – Peyton Hillis – Replaced by Shaun Draughn, Cyrus Gray, and Dexter McCluster

11. P – Dustin Colquitt – re-sign
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:20 PM   #52
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:24 PM   #53
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #54
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Safety is a way bigger need then some might realize. We haven't had our two starters at safety actually be able to complete a whole year together since being drafted. Injury is always high with the position.

#2 CB is a huge need of course, and our piss poor pass D not being able to count on safety help can make it look even worse. Look back even when we had a good #2 CB, we were still abused in the passing game because of poor safety help from gems like Jon McGraw and Mike Brown.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:24 AM   #55
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Problem is we don't know if Breaston is in the future plans or not? It would still be nice to get another WR in general. Someone with speed that can make plenty of YAC after the catch. I would rate WR behind #2 CB but from a play making perspective it isn't that far in difference. Either way there would be some tremendous CB or WR prospects at pick #34. I'm still leaning towards CB with the 2nd round pick.

The thing about S is that you can generally find top flight players at that position in rounds 3-5.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:18 AM   #56
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I don't really think receiver is a top need, but I could be wrong. Bowe and Breaston are legit starters in this league and guys like Baldwin, Wylie and McCluster are still developing. With an upgrade from Cassel and Quinn to Geno, it's possible that we have enough talent there to make some noise.
WR is one of the few needs we could fill in free agency.

Sign one and use that draft pick somewhere else...
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:19 AM   #57
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What would you guys say is the main needs and possible order of drafting for positions in this upcoming draft for KC?

QB, S, CB, ILB, WR, DE, etc. What else could be position of needs and where at in the draft do you see them coming?
OL depth OLB depth

really there isn't a position we can look away at and say we're fine.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:30 AM   #58
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:33 AM   #59
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Problem is we don't know if Breaston is in the future plans or not? It would still be nice to get another WR in general. Someone with speed that can make plenty of YAC after the catch. I would rate WR behind #2 CB but from a play making perspective it isn't that far in difference. Either way there would be some tremendous CB or WR prospects at pick #34. I'm still leaning towards CB with the 2nd round pick.

The thing about S is that you can generally find top flight players at that position in rounds 3-5.

If they sign Bowe he is #1. We don't really know what Baldwin is yet. He could very well be a #2. The Chiefs could use a burner at WR. Is our #2 and #3 already be on the roster?

Breaston, Wylie, McCluster, Newsome, Hemingway, and Bellamy will all be trying for new looks with a new QB.

The Chiefs and top flight S help? lol
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