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Old 09-18-2012, 09:02 PM  
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:43 PM   #991
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i think barkley may be my #2 again....
And the consistent USC busts have no impact on you?
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #992
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And the consistent USC busts have no impact on you?
why would they?

there's no logic to that...so the obvious answer is 'no'
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:47 PM   #993
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And the consistent USC busts have no impact on you?
Leinart would rather **** Paris Hilton than play football. Cassel didn't even play at USC. Palmer was an ascending player until his knee was blown up like C3PO in Empire (Clay whacks).
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:49 PM   #994
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And the consistent USC busts have no impact on you?
There hasn't exactly been a big sample size.

And I would argue that the last two years for Barkley have been much better than any years those guys had at USC.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:49 PM   #995
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why would they?

there's no logic to that...so the obvious answer is 'no'
Well, I thought that the logic speaks for itself.... FOUR BUSTS IN A ROW!... FOUR over promoted, laid back, fair weather surfer dudes because somewhere USC got the NFL Quarterback machine reputation... but they haven't made the NFL transition well.... no thanks. But to each their own. I just hope you don't have any influence with Andy
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:51 PM   #996
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Well, I thought that the logic speaks for itself.... FOUR BUSTS IN A ROW!... FOUR over promoted, laid back, fair weather surfer dudes because somewhere USC got the NFL Quarterback machine reputation... but they haven't made the NFL transition well.... no thanks. But to each their own. I just hope you don't have any influence with Andy
Cassell didn't play, and Palmer was on his way to having a great career before injury.

And Barkley was better than any of those four guys in college.
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Well, I thought that the logic speaks for itself.... FOUR BUSTS IN A ROW!... FOUR over promoted, laid back, fair weather surfer dudes because somewhere USC got the NFL Quarterback machine reputation... but they haven't made the NFL transition well.... no thanks. But to each their own. I just hope you don't have any influence with Andy
JFC, you're truly ****ing dumb.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:51 PM   #998
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players don't fail because of the school they attend, they fail as a result of their own talent level and commitment...

and if you aren't evaluating players as individuals, then you're going to miss on a great player eventually....
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Cassell didn't play, and Palmer was on his way to having a great career before injury.

And Barkley was better than any of those four guys in college.
This I will agree with.... I do like Palmer.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:39 AM   #1000
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1 OT Luke Joeckel Texas A&M Jr. 6-6 310
Quarterback is clearly the crying need in K.C., but there's not an Andrew Luck or RGIII in sight atop this year's board. Maybe a passer gets pushed up into this spot at some point, but for now the value of the slot says you take the franchise left tackle in the first round and then try to pick off a quarterback to start the second round. Everybody knows Andy Reid likes to build his roster from the lines out, and with Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert eligible for free agency, Joeckel is the logical replacement.

4 QB Geno Smith West Virginia Sr. 6-3 220
This is where the real guess-work begins, because so much depends on whether new Eagles coach Chip Kelly believes he currently has his starting quarterback on the roster or not. Smith's talents aren't a perfect mesh for Kelly's up-tempo offense, but he's got enough mobility to get the job done, and his pocket-passing skills are NFL ready. We know quarterbacks get pushed up by need, but the Eagles defense needs so much help that Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner could be tough to pass on.


7 QB Matt Barkley USC Sr. 6-2 230
The Cardinals have other options to fix their quarterback issues, perhaps by trading for Alex Smith or Matt Flynn. But if their division rivals in San Francisco or Seattle won't play ball with them, the Cardinals might talk themselves into Barkley, who was presumed to be a slam-dunk top five pick in 2012, had he not opted to return to USC for what proved to be a damaging senior season. Some don't consider Barkley a first-round talent any more, but let's see what happens once the NFL digs into his tape.


8 QB Mike Glennon N.C. State Sr. 6-6 220
This pick doesn't reflect where Glennon's stock stands today, but where I think it's headed. Granted, Buffalo's need at quarterback is driving this projection of Glennon cracking the top 10. If the Bills don't find him intriguing, he very well may not make the first round. New Bills head coach Doug Marrone probably loves his collegiate QB, Syracuse's Ryan Nassib, but he's more likely to earn a second-to-mid-round grade. Just got a hunch that Glennon's size and arm strength will grow on NFL personnel men as the draft approaches.


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Old 01-27-2013, 08:45 AM   #1001
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If for some reason Albert isn't re-signed,

Then the pick HAS to be OT Luke Joeckel, and you take a QB in the second.

and suck my dick if you disagree.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:49 AM   #1002
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If for some reason Albert isn't re-signed,

Then the pick HAS to be OT Luke Joeckel, and you take a QB in the second.

and suck my dick if you disagree.
I agree, LT is far more important than QB!!!1!!
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:50 AM   #1003
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So Smith isn't worth the #1 pick but he's worth the Eagles' #4, even though he doesn't fit Chip Kelly's offense?



This stuff is priceless.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:05 AM   #1004
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With all this franchise fan base has been thru, there are still ass holes who would rather have a franchise LT than taking a chance to developing our own franchise qb.


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Old 01-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #1005
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