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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 PM  
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***Official Draft Tyler Wilson Thread****

...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft.




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Old 01-26-2013, 09:21 PM   #1771
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By him not stepping into his throw properly doesn't equate to him lacking arm strength.
Footwork affects arm strength.

In this case, however, I think the poor throw has more to do with lack of familiarity than arm.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:24 AM   #1772
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You do realize that this has nothing to do with the other?


Of course you don't.

You're a ****ing moron.
You don't have a clue about what we're talking about. I think you missed my initial post.

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I can't find it but I saw someone post a quote from some dumbass analyst today who said geno was the best QB option for Reid because he loves to thorw it down the field.

That's biggest bunch of horsehit I heard today and was my favorite post. Whoever wrote that BS must be like 21 years old or something. Reid had receivers like Hank Basket, freddie Mitchell, James Thrash, and Reggie Brown for the most part.

None of them were especailly fast or downfield threats! He really didn't throw downfield consistently until he started Vick.

Reid is smart. He is the king of tayloring his offense to the players he has.

Do you really think he will throw it down the feild here? We don't have a guy that can get open down the field. We have no speed guys like Jackson or Maclin.

All I am saying is this whole down field passing thing is absolute bullshit.

Wilson is still the best fit imo.

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Two words....

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You are consumed by stats...
Haters are going to hate. Especially, if it involves anything that shows Geno isn't necessarily the best QB option for the Chiefs.

My whole argument here isn't trolling whatsoever.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:26 AM   #1773
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Footwork affects arm strength.

In this case, however, I think the poor throw has more to do with lack of familiarity than arm.
Lack of familiarity of what? He was throwing to Cobi Hamilton, his go to man at Arkansas.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #1774
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You don't have a clue about what we're talking about. I think you missed my initial post.






Haters are going to hate. Especially, if it involves anything that shows Geno isn't necessarily the best QB option for the Chiefs.

My whole argument here isn't trolling whatsoever.
You're trying to convince people that Andy Reid's offense was dink and dunk.

You're completely ****ing retarded.

You accuse people of being consumed by stats when it's painfully obvious you DON'T WATCH THE GAMES.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:30 AM   #1775
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You don't have a clue about what we're talking about. I think you missed my initial post.






Haters are going to hate. Especially, if it involves anything that shows Geno isn't necessarily the best QB option for the Chiefs.

My whole argument here isn't trolling whatsoever.
No, dumbass, I didn't miss your initial post.

But that has nothing to do with the number of deep targets.

I don't give a rat's ass who the leading receiver is.

The question is, how many times did McNabb attempt the deep ball, and where did that rank?
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No QBs worth the top pick. I don't care who your current QB is. Too many good QBs coming out next year.
Holy shit you did NOT just post that
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Lack of familiarity of what? He was throwing to Cobi Hamilton, his go to man at Arkansas.
The offense, both by Wilson and Hamilton.
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Lack of familiarity of what? He was throwing to Cobi Hamilton, his go to man at Arkansas.
Don't listen to him. He won't even recognize that Geno has footwork issues. He's had them over his entire carer. The very fact that he is even bringing up Wilson having footwork problems is hilarious imo. It will all come out soon and be clarified over and over who has the footwok problems.
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No, dumbass, I didn't miss your initial post.

But that has nothing to do with the number of deep targets.

I don't give a rat's ass who the leading receiver is.

The question is, how many times did McNabb attempt the deep ball, and where did that rank?
It has to do with YAC. The Westbrook part has everything to do with YAC. The Owens, Maclin, and Jackson part has to do with deep ball. Reid is going to play to his players strengths. Criticize me all you want but, you are the one who doesn't get it. Philly didn't throw deep regualry until they got speed and guys that could get open. The stats the other guy put up don't tell the whole story at all. That's why I called him out for only looking at a few of the recent stats. You can go look up the deep ball stats if you want but, the results will be the same as what I'm saying.

Geno's strong arm does not make him a more likely canidate or better fit for Reid's offense. That's the point.
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The offense, both by Wilson and Hamilton.
Wat? On that throw? It was just underthrown. It was a simple down route. I am not saying Wilson has footwork problems. I am saying on that throw, it was short because of his footwork.

Every QB has this happen from time to time, even NFL QBs.
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Don't listen to him. He won't even recognize that Geno has footwork issues. He's had them over his entire carer. The very fact that he is even bringing up Wilson having footwork problems is hilarious imo. It will all come out soon and be clarified over and over who has the footwok problems.
What are you talking about, you dipshit?

I have consistently talked about Smith's mechanical issues with his footwork, and how good coaching can fix that and improve his arm strength.

Get your shit stratight before you talk shit, dumbass.

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It has to do with YAC. The Westbrook part has everything to do with YAC. The Owens, Maclin, and Jackson part has to do with deep ball. Reid is going to play to his players strengths. Criticize me all you want but, you are the one who doesn't get it. Philly didn't throw deep regualry until they got talent and the stats the other guy put up don't tell the whole story at all. That's why I called him out for only looking at a few of the recent stats. You can go look up the deep ball stats if you want but, the results will be the same as what I'm saying.
Again, you dipshit, this isn't about any of that.

The question, you ueseless ****ing moron, is how many times did McNabb throw the deep ball in a season, and how did that number rank against the rest of the league.

I'd like to find where Clayton found that number he posted for the last 5 or 6 years, and see if they have it going further back.

I'd bet that the Eagles under Reid have always been top 10.
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Wat? On that throw? It was just underthrown. It was a simple down route. I am not saying Wilson has footwork problems. I am saying on that throw, it was short because of his footwork.

Every QB has this happen from time to time, even NFL QBs.
You may well be right.

I have seen Wilson with poor footwork on more than one occasion, but have never seen him be off by that much.
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What are you talking about, you dipshit?

I have consistently talked about Smith's mechanical issues with his footwork, and how good coaching can fix that and improve his arm strength.

Get your shit stratight before you talk shit, dumbass.



Again, you dipshit, this isn't about any of that.

The quest, you ueseless ****ing moron, is how many times did McNabb throw the deep ball in a season, and how did that number rank against the rest of the league.

I'd like to find where Clayton found that number he posted for the last 5 or 6 years, and see if they have it going further back.

I'd bet that the Eagles under Reid have always been top 10.
You still don't get it. He's had Jackson and Maclin for a while. Before that he had Owens. Of course the last five or six years is going to be big in terms of throwing the deep ball. The stats I posted represent the deep ball. Also, if you want to say Reid always leads the league with the deep ball, you need to go all the way back 14 years like I did.

Frankly, it just isn't true.

The point is that Reid taylors his offense to his players strengths.
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Don't listen to him. He won't even recognize that Geno has footwork issues. He's had them over his entire carer. The very fact that he is even bringing up Wilson having footwork problems is hilarious imo. It will all come out soon and be clarified over and over who has the footwok problems.
He absolutely HAS recognized that Geno has footwork issues. He's mentioned it SEVERAL TIMES.

You're not just stupid, you're also a liar.
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It has to do with YAC. The Westbrook part has everything to do with YAC. The Owens, Maclin, and Jackson part has to do with deep ball. Reid is going to play to his players strengths. Criticize me all you want but, you are the one who doesn't get it. Philly didn't throw deep regualry until they got speed and guys that could get open. The stats the other guy put up don't tell the whole story at all. That's why I called him out for only looking at a few of the recent stats. You can go look up the deep ball stats if you want but, the results will be the same as what I'm saying.

Geno's strong arm does not make him a more likely canidate or better fit for Reid's offense. That's the point.
Obviously.

Does.

Not.

Watch.

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