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Old 01-21-2013, 09:34 PM  
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Is the battle for gay rights a civil rights battle?

From Obama's inaugural speech.

"We, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths — that all of us are created equal — is the star that guides us still; just as it guided our forebears through Seneca Falls, and Selma, and Stonewall ... Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law — for if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well."

Today Obama placed an original place for the battle for gay civil rights, Stonewall along side the same original battleground's for women's rights(Seneca Falls) and African-American rights(Selma).

So the poll question is............

Is the battle for gay rights a civil rights battle?
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:46 PM   #211
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But the civil rights paradigm never really fit: unlike most African-Americans, lesbians and gay men can render their minority status invisible. Furthermore, their economic status is not analogous—indeed, there are studies that show gay men, at least, are economically better off on average than heterosexuals. They tend to be better educated, have better jobs, and these days are not at all what one could call an oppressed minority. According to GayAgenda.com, “studies show that [gay] Americans are twice as likely to have graduated from college, twice as likely to have an individual income over $60,000 and twice as likely to have a household income of $250,000 or more.”

Gays an oppressed minority group? I don’t think so.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:49 PM   #212
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But the legislative agenda of the modern gay-rights movement is not meant to be useful to the gay person in the street: it is meant to garner support from heterosexual liberals and others with access to power. It is meant to assure the careers of aspiring gay politicos and boost the fortunes of the left wing of the Democratic Party. The gay-marriage campaign is the culmination of this distancing trend, the reductio ad absurdum of the civil rights paradigm.

The modern gay-rights movement is all about securing the symbols of societal acceptance.
It is a defensive strategy, one that attempts to define homosexuals as an officially sanctioned victim group afflicted with an inherent disability, a disadvantage that must be compensated for legislatively.

But if “gay pride” means anything, it means not wanting, needing, or seeking any sort of acceptance but self-acceptance. Marriage is a social institution designed by heterosexuals for heterosexuals: why should gay people settle for their cast-off hand-me-downs?
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:52 PM   #213
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If there is discrimination against gays, then it exists against Mormons and Muslims too.

The state should just be neutral as it used to be before.

I agree with both points.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:17 PM   #214
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The very phrase “gay marriage” is an oxymoron. Homosexuality, after all, is really all about the avoidance of marriage – and the responsibility of raising a family. It is the embrace of sensuality for its own sake, as an instrument of pure pleasure rather than procreation. Do gay guys really want to give up what is most attractive – to males, at any rate – about their recreational activities, the tremendous sense of freedom it implies?..."
Sounds like a guy who hates what he is. Nothing he says here is universally true, and damn sure could be applied to men in general.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:42 PM   #215
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Sounds like a guy who hates what he is. Nothing he says here is universally true, and damn sure could be applied to men in general.
THIS! That dude reads like he is one ****ed up individual.

Gays have the same rights as any citizen. We need to ensure they receive those rights now that have been denied in the past just like we did for women and African-Americans.
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Homosexuality, after all, is really all about the avoidance of marriage –
Uh, yeah. I stopped reading at that point. This guy is a moron.
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The Boy Scouts are going to allow gays to be in the Boy Scouts and be Den leaders.

Major reversal. Just 6 months ago they were kicking out a Mom who was a Den mother that was a lesbian.
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