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Old 01-28-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Alex Smith to ask for release

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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:56 AM   #31
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I'm not cool with the draft picks for Smith either. As a FA, I have a little more interest.

He is well versed in the WCO, and could at the very least provide some quality competition to which ever QB we draft in April. Competition at the QB position, as we all know, can not be a bad thing.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:59 AM   #32
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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
No it doesn't. Fail QB is fail QB, doesn't matter how many draft picks you do or don't pay for him, he will still suck and is definitely not the answer.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:00 AM   #33
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If they release him (doubtful), I'd take him but wouldn't promise him the starting role. I'd still draft Geno Smith. I'd be happy with Geno, Alex, and Either Stanzi or Trick shot as my third.
That's something along the lines I would be thinking.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:03 AM   #34
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Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:06 AM   #35
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Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.
I agree. If Smith (or whatever QB we draft) needs a year or two to develop then I'd be okay with it. But have a true competition (ala Wilson in Seattle). If Geno wins it you start him with no regard to Alex's feelings.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:06 AM   #36
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Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:06 AM   #37
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Alex Smith will 100% be released. Especially if he agrees to waive his 1m guaranteed. That would free up 7.5 million for the 49ers.
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I agree. If Smith (or whatever QB we draft) needs a year or two to develop then I'd be okay with it. But have a true competition (ala Wilson in Seattle). If Geno wins it you start him with no regard to Alex's feelings.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:07 AM   #39
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Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.

...Why would he sign with a team who just drafted a QB #1 overall if he wants to start?
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:07 AM   #40
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I would imagine the following teams are in the market for a starting QB:

Arizona
Kansas City
Buffalo
Jacksonville
Philadelphia (Maybe)
Cleveland (Maybe) (These two with new administrations could be looking.)

Not a big market for Smith to try to be a starter. We do have some leverage.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:09 AM   #41
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I would be fine with that set-up. Regardless we need to draft a QB and get the best possible FA QB. If the new drafted QB needs time, we will have a solid option for the time being as a quality stop gap (2-3 years). Alex Smith is a better QB than Matt Cassel and at this moment is all that matters.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:10 AM   #42
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I would imagine the following teams are in the market for a starting QB:

Arizona
Kansas City
Buffalo
Jacksonville
Philadelphia (Maybe)
Cleveland (Maybe) (These two with new administrations could be looking.)

Not a big market for Smith to try to be a starter. We do have some leverage.
That probably about the order on where I would expect him to land as well. If he is released, I expect Arizona to be his top choice. But I really think it would not be a bad idea for KC to make a play for him either.
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I repeat...

Why would Alex Smith willingly agree to sign with a team who just took a QB #1 overall, if he wants to start?
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Why I don't think we will take a QB at #1 unless we felt that QB could start day one effectively.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #45
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Smith isnt as bad as alot of people think. Under good leadership and coaching, he could help stablize a sinking ship. Hes already proven that. I just dont see him as any sort of long term solution.
Absolutely.

I like Geno Smith as much or more than anyone on here, but people are blasting Alex to boost Geno and they're being unfair.

Sure, Harbaugh made Smith better than he is. But at the same time, why does nobody consider the possibility that Singletary made him worse (when he wasn't really that awful). Singletary was the most overmatched head coach in the league and with that backdrop, Smith put up passer ratings in the low 80s once he got his feet under him.

Why would it be unfair to say that Alex Smith is probably somewhere in the middle of his Harbaugh performance and his Singletary performance? If so, that makes him a QB rating of about 88 and a YPA of about 7.2.

And if you assume that he's actually improved with good coaching and experience, as is generally the case, you can make an argument that he's probably closer to the 2011 version of him than the 2010 version and adjust those up just a little bit more.

Smith's an average NFL quarterback with a ton of experience, a decent track record and a little bit of upside (afterall, what if everything Harbaugh taught him has stuck; and Reid is no slouch with QBs himself).

I'd rather have Geno and will be disappointed if we don't go that route, but this team could make the playoffs with Alex Smith at the helm, IMO. He's not the steaming pile of shit that so many make him out to be.
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