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Old 01-22-2013, 12:33 PM  
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Albert just called 610. Wants to stay in KC

Agent is talking to Dorsey. Does not want to play guard. Health is good. For what its worth.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:38 AM   #871
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Joeckel is not a project. Give him his due credit.
He's got work to do in the running game. He's got elite athleticism and operates well in space as a pass blocker.

But his lower body needs work.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:41 AM   #872
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You are correct DeBerg. Doesn't mean we have to like it but it is the reality how franchises look at it. Good franchises don't knee jerk and reach even if it is a desperate need. If they don't deem there to be a elite QB to take at #1, they won't reach over other more highly rated prospects.
There aren't any more highly-rated prospects.

There is not one single "can't miss" guy in this draft.

Moore has question marks. Joeckel has question marks. Star has question marks. Jones has 1 HUGE question mark.

EVERY SINGLE GUY at the top of this draft has flaws. Every one of them has the potential to be a huge bust.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:42 AM   #873
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There aren't any more highly-rated prospects.

There is not one single "can't miss" guy in this draft.

Moore has question marks. Joeckel has question marks. Star has question marks. Jones has 1 HUGE question mark.

EVERY SINGLE GUY at the top of this draft has flaws. Every one of them has the potential to be a huge bust.
This is a really bad post.

That's what people say everytime there isn't a QB that is clearly the #1 pick.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:46 AM   #874
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I actually I would argue there are some can't miss LT's, DT's and Rush DE/OLB's in this draft. There is no can't miss QB yes but to say other positions are a lie.

There may be no one guy that stands above everyone else but doesn't mean there isn't multiple guys that aren't immediate impact long term pro bowl prospects.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:53 AM   #875
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I actually I would argue there are some can't miss LT's, DT's and Rush DE/OLB's in this draft. There is no can't miss QB yes but to say other positions are a lie.

There may be no one guy that stands above everyone else but doesn't mean there isn't multiple guys that aren't immediate impact long term pro bowl prospects.
Yep and we aren't going to pass on a franchise LT if we don't have one under contract for more than one year.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #876
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I actually I would argue there are some can't miss LT's, DT's and Rush DE/OLB's in this draft. There is no can't miss QB yes but to say other positions are a lie.

There may be no one guy that stands above everyone else but doesn't mean there isn't multiple guys that aren't immediate impact long term pro bowl prospects.
Name them.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #877
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Yep and we aren't going to pass on a franchise LT if we don't have one under contract for more than one year.
Clinging to the cliff for as long as you can.

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Old 01-28-2013, 11:28 AM   #878
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Name them.
Luke Joeckel
Eric Fisher (especially after owning this week)
Damontre Moore
Jarvis Jones

You don't think these guys are legit top 5 talent?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #879
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Luke Joeckel
Eric Fisher (especially after owning this week)
Damontre Moore
Jarvis Jones

You don't think these guys are legit top 5 talent?
Joeckel isn't even the best LT in this class, let alone worth the #1 pick.

Fisher looks like the real deal to me. If we can't re-sign Albert, he could be a consideration.

Moore I personally think is a stud but he's a tweener and people have questioned his ceiling.

Jarvis Jones - spinal stenosis.

Again, there are ZERO "can't" miss prospects in this draft. All of those guys have question marks...

EDIT: I just noticed your qualifier about "top 5" talent. All of these guys save Jones are top 5 talents, as are Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson. I'm talking about specifically being worth the CHIEFS pick at #1.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:00 PM   #880
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Joeckel isn't even the best LT in this class, let alone worth the #1 pick.

Fisher looks like the real deal to me. If we can't re-sign Albert, he could be a consideration.

Moore I personally think is a stud but he's a tweener and people have questioned his ceiling.

Jarvis Jones - spinal stenosis.

Again, there are ZERO "can't" miss prospects in this draft. All of those guys have question marks...

EDIT: I just noticed your qualifier about "top 5" talent. All of these guys save Jones are top 5 talents, as are Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson. I'm talking about specifically being worth the CHIEFS pick at #1.
I will say this. I think Joeckel is damn lucky that Taylor Lewan stayed in school because he is the next elite LT prospect IMO.

Aside from the busted run play in the bowl game, Lewan made Jadeveon Clowney, the best pass rusher in college, his bitch all game long. I've never seen so much ownage.

Lewan is one nasty SOB too. I think he'll be a better prospect than Jake Long next season barring a huge letdown/injury.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:06 PM   #881
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I will say this. I think Joeckel is damn lucky that Taylor Lewan stayed in school because he is the next elite LT prospect IMO.

Aside from the busted run play in the bowl game, Lewan made Jadeveon Clowney, the best pass rusher in college, his bitch all game long. I've never seen so much ownage.

Lewan is one nasty SOB too. I think he'll be a better prospect than Jake Long next season barring a huge letdown/injury.
I like Lewan a lot.

I'd rather tag Albert, take our QB this year, and then look at LT next year if needed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:12 PM   #882
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I like Lewan a lot.

I'd rather tag Albert, take our QB this year, and then look at LT next year if needed.
What the **** is wrong with you?

We should let Albert walk, draft Joeckel this year, and then draft Lewan and move Joeckel to RT next year.

That's the only true fan way to do it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:14 PM   #883
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What the **** is wrong with you?

We should let Albert walk, draft Joeckel this year, and then draft Lewan and move Joeckel to RT next year.

That's the only true fan way to do it.
Sorry, I don't know what got into me.

The only problem with drafting Joeckel is that I don't know how we would get Warmack too. Maybe we could trade down, take Fisher and then take Warmack.
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Sorry, I don't know what got into me.

The only problem with drafting Joeckel is that I don't know how we would get Warmack too. Maybe we could trade down, take Fisher and then take Warmack.
I'm only approving this if we can trade our 2015 and 2016 1st to trade up for Jones (Alabama)
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I'm only approving this if we can trade our 2015 and 2016 1st to trade up for Jones (Alabama)
Hell, Matt Cassel might be able to complete a 25 yard Hail Mary behind that line.
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