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Old 01-28-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Alex Smith to ask for release

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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #106
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I liked Campbell as a possible Cassel replacement, but oddly enough, I don't care for him in a Reid system.

He's mobile, but he's not terribly accurate and he's prone to bouts of insane idiocy in his decision-making.

That said, the backup QB pool is pretty slim (because I don't see Alex coming here as a backup). I'd prefer someone like Moore if he shook loose, but we could do a hell of a lot worse than Campbell.
Absolutely agree.

And that's why you like him as a backup versus the first round starter he was originally envisioned as. Add to that he's had some pretty shitty coaching and opportunities in his career. He's as likely to develop positively under Reid as anyone. And I think he's got the tools to be a very good 2nd option/scout team guy for the Chiefs.

I don't want him starting, but I think he's a pretty good option at #2 and probably could be had relatively cheap at this point.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #107
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Yep, everything here is dead on.

Its time for a dinger swing.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #108
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Why wouldnt you want Smith as a backup?
Can't think of one reason.

Problem is that I think he's going to hand pick his place where he's the for sure starter. And that probably won't be us.... Or if it is, we've got problems.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:04 AM   #109
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If it keeps us from drafting someone 1r then I'd be furious. If it's depth as a FA to go along w/ a QBOTF drafted high then I'd be ambivalent. The reality is we need to add two QB's. There's no one on our roster I want as a #2 let along QB1.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:07 AM   #110
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Here's the thing with Alex Smith. He was drafted under incompetent defensive head coaches. He finally gets an offensive coach that is good with QB's, and he shines. I think the same would continue with Reid. He took his team to the NFC title last year and was on his way to taking them to the Super Bowl this year.

I know, I know, it's the D that carries the niners, but at least he's capable of being an effective QB in the NFL.

Having said all that, I still would rather the chiefs take Geno number one, and then take another QB in the third or fourth round. I just don't think they are going to. I think the Chiefs will take either Luke Joekel or Latuoi if they can't trade out of the first pick, but, of course, that will be determined by what happens in free agency.

I could see the Chiefs going after Alex Smith or Flynn (my opinion, not my choice), and then using the first pick on another position. and still taking a qb later in the second or third. It really all depends on what they think of Geno Smith vs. available free agents.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:13 AM   #111
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Here's the thing with Alex Smith. He was drafted under incompetent defensive head coaches. He finally gets an offensive coach that is good with QB's, and he shines. I think the same would continue with Reid. He took his team to the NFC title last year and was on his way to taking them to the Super Bowl this year.

I know, I know, it's the D that carries the niners, but at least he's capable of being an effective QB in the NFL.

Having said all that, I still would rather the chiefs take Geno number one, and then take another QB in the third or fourth round. I just don't think they are going to. I think the Chiefs will take either Luke Joekel or Latuoi if they can't trade out of the first pick, but, of course, that will be determined by what happens in free agency.

I could see the Chiefs going after Alex Smith or Flynn (my opinion, not my choice), and then using the first pick on another position. and still taking a qb later in the second or third. It really all depends on what they think of Geno Smith vs. available free agents.
Flynn is going to cost draft picks, no?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:15 AM   #112
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Flynn is going to cost draft picks, no?
Right now, both Smith and Flynn would cost draft picks.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:18 AM   #113
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Right now, both Smith and Flynn would cost draft picks.
Understood on both counts. But Smith is apparently going to ask for a release which would make the scenario different. I want no draft picks spent for either.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:19 AM   #114
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The problem is he's going to want starter money and someone will give it to him. If he comes here, it'll be other team's leftover QB bullshit extravaganza version one billion. Kiss drafting a QB in the 1st goodbye and maybe a mid to late round QB as a backup. Same old same old.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #115
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Because he's coming off a very good season where he was leading the NFL in completion and rating and if a rookie QB struggles, which they will, there is going to be that "quarterback controversy" thing that will rear it's ugly head.

Having that spector looming over your shoulder as a rookie QB in the NFL isn't the best way to develop confidence.

However, a guy like Campbell, who's taken a backup role the past couple of seasons, wouldn't present that "QB controversy" potential like a guy like Alex Smith would to the fans and the coaching staff.
Thats stupid.

You add the best players who give your team a chance to win to the roster. If Geno Smith isnt ready you can play and win games with Alex Smith. I dont think you can say the same for Jason Campbell.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #116
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:40 AM   #117
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He's a QB that you have to 'protect' with scheme, so no.


we want a guy that makes the offense better not one that you have to scheme so he doesn't implode.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:46 AM   #118
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He's a QB that you have to 'protect' with scheme, so no.


we want a guy that makes the offense better not one that you have to scheme so he doesn't implode.
Isnt that how most backups are used?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:49 AM   #119
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Why wouldnt you want Smith as a backup?
He is asking for a release because he has no interest in being a backup...even making 9 million to do so.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:50 AM   #120
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Isnt that how most backups are used?
Yes, but i don't think we are in a position to intentionally grab a backup when we don't have a starter yet. We want to shoot for 2 starters and hope we end up with more than we need.
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